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Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

Started byLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2025-08-03 03:18 +0000
Last post2025-08-15 07:54 +0000
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  Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-03 03:18 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:13 -0400
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 06:08 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 00:13 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:24 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 02:53 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:26 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 05:14 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:37 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-04 15:13 +0200
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 08:42 +1000
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 19:04 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 09:30 +1000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 23:59 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 06:21 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 05:59 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-06 02:05 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-07 18:22 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:56 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:49 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 04:12 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-04 07:05 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:26 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 09:05 +0100
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 06:16 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 09:45 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 20:37 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:13 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 12:38 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 13:20 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-04 14:38 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:34 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:58 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:19 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 20:53 +1000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 18:57 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 20:06 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:31 +1000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:22 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:33 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:32 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:31 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:49 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:11 +0800
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 19:57 +0800
          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:34 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 20:58 +0800
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:55 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:30 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 14:33 +0800
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-07 06:56 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 22:18 +1000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-07 19:34 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 09:10 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 21:38 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 12:56 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 22:15 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-08 10:36 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:01 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 04:13 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 00:58 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 13:58 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:28 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-09 10:49 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:28 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-10 18:37 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:49 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 12:08 +0100
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:28 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:53 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-12 04:06 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-12 18:47 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:46 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:42 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:47 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:34 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 21:29 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 04:31 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 11:45 +0200
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 20:49 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:36 +0200
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:22 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 09:14 +0100
                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:29 +0200
                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 22:44 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 04:38 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 03:00 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:08 +0200
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 23:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 01:28 +0200
                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-14 19:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 03:00 -0400
                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-15 11:45 -0400
                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:56 -0400
                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:32 +0100
                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 00:28 +1000
                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 16:30 +0100
                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 02:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 20:20 +1000
                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 13:12 +0100
                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:33 +0000
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:59 -0400
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:51 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-17 18:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 20:57 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:27 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:50 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:59 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 07:11 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:49 +0100
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:16 +1000
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:33 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:33 +0100
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:45 +0200
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:31 +0100
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 14:20 +0200
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:16 -0400
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:35 +1000
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:47 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:02 -0400
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 05:24 +0000
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:35 -0400
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:37 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:49 -0400
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:44 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:33 +0000
                                                                    CD-DA and CD-ROM (was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 09:38 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:16 -0400
                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 15:23 +0200
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 14:32 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-17 10:26 -0400
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:33 +1000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:53 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:08 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:52 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:35 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:49 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:30 +0100
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:00 +0000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:36 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:12 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:53 +1000
                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:28 +1000
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:51 +0100
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 02:38 -0400
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:42 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:35 +0100
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:58 +1000
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:10 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 22:02 +1000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:34 +0100
                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 19:10 -0700
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 03:19 +0000
                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:28 +0100
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 18:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:50 +0100
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 05:15 -0400
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:28 +0000
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:24 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 20:17 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:57 -0400
                                                                                      POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-21 21:24 +1000
                                                                                        Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:32 +0100
                                                                                        Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:14 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Teslas and Toyotas Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 18:35 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Teslas and Toyotas rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 14:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 18:19 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:55 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:42 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 19:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:15 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 17:01 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:36 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 11:20 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 14:37 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 13:51 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:01 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 16:07 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:34 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 03:38 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 11:47 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:04 -0700
                                                                                                              Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 22:19 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:35 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:24 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:06 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:40 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-29 12:16 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:23 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-30 10:37 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:57 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:18 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:16 +1000
                                                                                                                              Capitalism and Population collapse [Re: Costs of transport] Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:45 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:56 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:23 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 08:30 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 06:06 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:32 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:02 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:49 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 14:25 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:20 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:15 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:51 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:17 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 23:12 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:26 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:58 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Herbs and banks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:47 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Herbs and banks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 07:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Herbs and banks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Herbs and banks Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 14:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:09 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 21:53 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:27 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:31 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:47 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:07 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 02:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-30 07:21 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:00 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:35 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:28 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:29 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:28 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:43 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 10:59 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:24 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:36 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:53 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:33 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:47 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:21 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-31 12:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 21:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:30 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:44 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:55 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:05 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:57 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 20:08 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:47 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 04:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:09 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 22:47 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:47 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:17 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:38 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:53 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:49 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-27 06:10 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-27 12:06 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:40 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:20 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-27 13:18 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:42 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:49 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:57 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:38 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:28 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:35 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 22:15 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:18 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:34 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:57 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-29 08:52 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:16 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 09:58 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:08 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:26 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:14 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:27 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:21 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-08-29 14:04 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:18 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:47 +1000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:26 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:28 +1000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:15 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:02 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:14 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:10 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-08-30 18:37 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:03 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-31 09:07 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:41 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:54 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:37 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:40 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:47 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 03:27 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:17 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 00:53 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:29 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:24 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:30 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:27 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:13 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:06 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:01 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:51 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:08 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:13 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:15 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:04 +0100
                                                                                                                      Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:58 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:30 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:18 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:34 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:43 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-09-03 15:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 08:00 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-09-01 19:28 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 21:49 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:32 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:15 +0100
                                                                                                                              Storey "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:28 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:59 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:17 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 12:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:27 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:58 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 17:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 11:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:27 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:28 +1000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:36 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:07 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:00 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 11:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:36 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 13:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 17:53 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:20 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:12 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:08 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:10 +1000
                                                                                                                              Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:07 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:31 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:07 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:54 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:49 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:26 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 01:09 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:24 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 01:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Non glamorous military things "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:05 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:35 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-29 11:10 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:28 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:01 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 04:52 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 21:30 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 07:49 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 17:22 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 21:22 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 22:51 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-08-31 22:31 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-01 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:35 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:36 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:21 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:32 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:09 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:10 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:55 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:08 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 19:49 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 02:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:24 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:25 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:47 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:48 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 01:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:20 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:24 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:43 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:10 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                      House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:59 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:47 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 23:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 03:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:04 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:21 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 23:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 04:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 05:13 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:10 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:05 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-09-01 09:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 17:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:17 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-02 13:09 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 13:39 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-06 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 13:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 15:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:08 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:52 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:11 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 06:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:55 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 02:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-06 13:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-06 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 23:16 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 13:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:25 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 21:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 16:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 17:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 19:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 23:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 19:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 16:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 22:42 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 11:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 03:08 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 08:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 05:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 07:14 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 02:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-09 13:34 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 14:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-10 03:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:19 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 04:22 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:51 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:29 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:12 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:58 -0400
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:31 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 15:17 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:41 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:02 +1000
                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 22:07 +1000
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:13 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:11 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:00 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:30 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:57 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 04:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 05:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:45 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-06 10:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:54 -0400
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-07 23:48 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:29 +1000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:41 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:59 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:42 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:02 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:38 +1000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-05 18:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:34 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:45 +1000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:20 +1000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 23:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:25 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 04:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:22 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 08:09 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:57 +1000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:10 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:44 +1000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:35 +1000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 22:26 +1000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 17:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:16 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:12 +1000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:10 +1000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 15:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:08 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:00 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:34 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:32 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:19 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 12:15 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:21 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:19 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:45 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:49 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:08 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                        [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-27 22:22 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:08 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:26 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 06:15 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 08:48 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:35 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:36 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:05 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 19:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:33 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:18 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:02 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:43 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:58 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:24 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:19 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:49 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 14:51 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:10 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:17 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:55 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:25 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 16:30 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 19:37 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:29 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 09:20 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-26 04:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:54 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 12:59 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 21:53 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 14:03 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:14 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:46 +1000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:57 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:11 +1000
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:35 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 01:16 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:38 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:19 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-08-28 10:06 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:02 +1000
                                                                                                                        Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:55 +1000
                                                                                                                    Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:31 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:33 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:51 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:47 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:49 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:45 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:58 +0100
                                                                                            Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:46 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:03 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:32 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 04:11 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:38 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:27 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:07 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 03:04 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 22:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:17 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 23:21 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:01 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:38 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 21:06 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 19:04 +0000
                                                                                High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:51 +0000
                                                                                  Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:54 +0000
                                                                                  Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:58 +0200
                                                                                    Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 13:45 +0000
                                                                                      Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:47 +0200
                                                                                      Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:42 +0000
                                                                                      Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:45 -0400
                                                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
                                                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:50 +0000
                                                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 23:30 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:23 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 01:34 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-10 06:48 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 11:44 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:38 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 08:59 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:22 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 23:46 +0200
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:37 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-08 20:06 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 23:02 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:40 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:58 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 04:49 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:06 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:58 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 13:33 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 01:04 +0200
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-10 23:12 -0400
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 13:50 +0200
                                                  Good Old DOS and Ancient Windows: TSR Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:35 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-08-11 10:32 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:34 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:35 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:12 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:29 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 10:06 +0100
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:02 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 02:56 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 08:07 +0100
                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 03:55 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 10:59 +0100
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:39 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 06:49 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 17:58 -0400
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:53 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-07 10:45 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 17:47 +0800
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:03 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 18:12 +0800
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:43 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:43 +0100
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:40 +0800
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:53 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:43 +0100
                                        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:15 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:07 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:53 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:45 +0800
                                [OT] Minix "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:55 +0800
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 14:23 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:38 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 12:48 +0100
                                  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 21:21 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:22 +0100
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#72659 — Re: Pickup trucks for city boys

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-08-29 18:21 +0000
SubjectRe: Pickup trucks for city boys
Message-ID<mhe9ddF963nU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#72595
On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 04:35:23 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit with 60
>    amps.
> 
>    The USA standard is *200* amps.

You really think every single family house in the US has a 200  amp 
service? 

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#72681 — Re: Pickup trucks for city boys

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-08-29 22:28 +0200
SubjectRe: Pickup trucks for city boys
Message-ID<05f9olxd4v.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#72595
On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>
> 
>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a
>    decent A/C unit with 60 amps.
> 
>    The USA standard is *200* amps.

My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I have AC.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#72719 — Re: Pickup trucks for city boys

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-30 08:01 +0100
SubjectRe: Pickup trucks for city boys
Message-ID<108u7js$2f7ql$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72681
On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>
>>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a
>>    decent A/C unit with 60 amps.
>>
>>    The USA standard is *200* amps.
> 
> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I have AC.
> 
Mine used to be 60A at 230V but they put a digger through the 
underground feed and blew the fuse.

So the electricity company installed a 100A one so it would REALLY blow 
and they could ID where to fix it. They left that in place after fixing 
it...

in the UK the wall sockets are rated at 13A and the rings they are on 
are fused at 32A generally.


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#72731 — Re: Pickup trucks for city boys

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-30 04:52 -0400
SubjectRe: Pickup trucks for city boys
Message-ID<T9GcnVBPhalWJi_1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#72719
On 8/30/25 3:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a
>>>    decent A/C unit with 60 amps.
>>>
>>>    The USA standard is *200* amps.
>>
>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I 
>> have AC.

   You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit
   on 10 amps.

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#72776 — Re: Pickup trucks for city boys

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-08-30 19:50 +0000
SubjectRe: Pickup trucks for city boys
Message-ID<mhh2vdFmqn9U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#72731
On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 8/30/25 3:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit
>>>>    with 60 amps.
>>>>
>>>>    The USA standard is *200* amps.
>>>
>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I
>>> have AC.
> 
>    You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 amps.

Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit.

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#72789 — Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromLars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
Date2025-08-30 21:30 +0000
SubjectElecticity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<slrn10b6rc2.1t62b.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
In reply to#72776
On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit
>>>>>    with 60 amps.
>>>>>    The USA standard is *200* amps.

On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I
>>>> have AC.
 
On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>    You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 amps.

On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit.

Bull...!

My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more
solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have to
upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot of
rewiring. With a 100 amp service, the copde would only allow me to
have 5kW of solar generation power. So that option was cost prohibitive.
So I put in a 14kW natiural gas powered generator to use when wildfires
take the grid down. Comes on in 10 seconds when the power drops.

At work, we have a couple of window A/C units. Each of them shares
a 10 amp circuit (1200 W) with some other minor things such as lamps
desktop computers. I doubt they draw more than 800W. I.e. similar to a
microwave oven.

An yes, we also have a central HVAC system at that house. No problem.

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#72799 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-08-30 23:01 +0000
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<mhhe6fFpd9qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#72789
On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 21:30:42 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>    *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit
>>>>>>    with 60 amps.
>>>>>>    The USA standard is *200* amps.
> 
> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I
>>>>> have AC.
>  
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>    You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 amps.
> 
> On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit.
> 
> Bull...!

Okay, I'll repeat myself -- I've never had a window mounted A/C unit or 
any A/C at home period. I have A/C in the car because I don't think you 
can buy one without it anymore. Never had it as a kid either. Back then 
businesses with A/C would make a big deal of it. In fact many of the 
places I worked didn't have it. You learned not to drip sweat on the 
schematic you were drafting.

My most recent place of employment has it with a vengeance. Flannel shirts 
in August were de rigueur in programming and QA. TBH other departments 
cooked; big old industrial building with minimal insulation and HVAC 
layout and we were closest to the heating/cooling plant.

Tomorrow it's supposed to be 95 with a low of 55 at night. A window fan 
will be fine, may have to turn it off if it gets too chilly.

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#72810 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-08-31 07:49 +0200
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<1090npu$2bvse$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#72789
Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more
>solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have to
>upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot of
>rewiring.

That sounds like they don't want you to have solar power. Or are we
talking about a single phase at 100 A?

Greetings
Marc
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#72833 — Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromLars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
Date2025-08-31 17:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<slrn10b9165.29bpj.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
In reply to#72810
On 2025-08-31, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:
> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more
>>solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have to
>>upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot of
>>rewiring.
>
> That sounds like they don't want you to have solar power. Or are we
> talking about a single phase at 100 ?

Not sure how they specify it. The fact that the other company had no
qualms about putting a 14kW generator into the same system probably
means he was BSing me; on the other hand, he was a SOLAR installer. But
I wanted to add batteries at the same time, and that may have spooked
him. On the other hand, the generator is only running when the house is
disconnected from the grid.

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#72841 — Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-08-31 21:22 +0200
SubjectRe: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<10927dq$ah54$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#72833
Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>On 2025-08-31, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:
>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more
>>>solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have to
>>>upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot of
>>>rewiring.
>>
>> That sounds like they don't want you to have solar power. Or are we
>> talking about a single phase at 100 ?
>
>Not sure how they specify it. The fact that the other company had no
>qualms about putting a 14kW generator into the same system probably
>means he was BSing me; on the other hand, he was a SOLAR installer. But
>I wanted to add batteries at the same time, and that may have spooked
>him. On the other hand, the generator is only running when the house is
>disconnected from the grid.

Yes, the Generator will never feed to the grid.

Over here (Fermany), single-family Houses tend to have 3x50 od 3x63
amp connections to the grid, and it is usually not a problem to have
15 or more kWp solar installations connected. We have 8.

Greetings
Marc
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#72861 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-31 22:51 -0400
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<7_GcnXdgUOPflyj1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#72789
On 8/30/25 5:30 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>     *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit
>>>>>>     with 60 amps.
>>>>>>     The USA standard is *200* amps.
> 
> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, I
>>>>> have AC.
>   
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>     You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 amps.
> 
> On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit.
> 
> Bull...!
> 
> My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more
> solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have to
> upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot of
> rewiring. With a 100 amp service, the copde would only allow me to
> have 5kW of solar generation power. So that option was cost prohibitive.
> So I put in a 14kW natiural gas powered generator to use when wildfires
> take the grid down. Comes on in 10 seconds when the power drops.
> 
> At work, we have a couple of window A/C units. Each of them shares
> a 10 amp circuit (1200 W) with some other minor things such as lamps
> desktop computers. I doubt they draw more than 800W. I.e. similar to a
> microwave oven.
> 
> An yes, we also have a central HVAC system at that house. No problem.


   Ya know ..... I think you were being conned by those
   hoping for a huge profit from re-working your whole
   system.

   So long as your inverter didn't deliver more than 100a
   regardless, your existing service would have been fine.
   100a should usually be enough for an 'average home', so
   you could have put the extra money into more batteries.

   Now if you ran out and just HAD to buy a nine room "McMansion"
   in 90s ... well. Probably takes 100a just to juice the hot tub
   and mini-Olympic pool ! :-)

   Note there are several contributors to this thread. Some
   are USA, some are UK or Oz. The USA home systems are always
   240/120v while the UK is 240v-all. 100a at 240 is the same
   amount of *energy* as 200a at 120.

   Look up a schematic for common home breaker boxes - "Square-D"
   is typical for the USA. There are various vertical 'rails' the
   breakers plug into. The 120v breakers plug into the left or
   right side 'hots' and then to the neutral. 240v stuff, stoves,
   A/C units, are always 'double-size' breakers and plug into
   rails that reach across the 240 rails. Your electrician is
   SUPPOSED to kind of balance the predicted loads so you
   don't have too many breakers of a given kind on one rail
   and 'side'. If the A/C is on the right, put the stove
   on the left.

   Now what I've never heard a good reason for are the HUGE
   ugly appliance plugs used in the UK. Somehow I don't see
   a table lamp using 100 amps at 240v nor have I seen any
   24,000w light bulbs at the hardware store :-)

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#72863 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromIan <gay@sfuu.ca>
Date2025-08-31 22:31 -0700
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<1093b48$24hge$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#72861
c186282 wrote:

> On 8/30/25 5:30 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>>  *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit
>>>>>>>  with 60 amps.
>>>>>>>  The USA standard is *200* amps.
>> 
>> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes,
>>>>>> I have AC.
>>   
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>     You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 amps.
>> 
>> On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit.
>> 
>> Bull...!
>> 
>> My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more
>> solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have
>> to upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot
>> of rewiring. With a 100 amp service, the copde would only allow me to
>> have 5kW of solar generation power. So that option was cost
>> prohibitive. So I put in a 14kW natiural gas powered generator to use
>> when wildfires take the grid down. Comes on in 10 seconds when the
>> power drops.
>> 
>> At work, we have a couple of window A/C units. Each of them shares
>> a 10 amp circuit (1200 W) with some other minor things such as lamps
>> desktop computers. I doubt they draw more than 800W. I.e. similar to
>> a microwave oven.
>> 
>> An yes, we also have a central HVAC system at that house. No problem.
> 
> 
>    Ya know ..... I think you were being conned by those
>    hoping for a huge profit from re-working your whole
>    system.
> 
>    So long as your inverter didn't deliver more than 100a
>    regardless, your existing service would have been fine.
>    100a should usually be enough for an 'average home', so
>    you could have put the extra money into more batteries.
> 
>    Now if you ran out and just HAD to buy a nine room "McMansion"
>    in 90s ... well. Probably takes 100a just to juice the hot tub
>    and mini-Olympic pool ! :-)
> 
>    Note there are several contributors to this thread. Some
>    are USA, some are UK or Oz. The USA home systems are always
>    240/120v while the UK is 240v-all. 100a at 240 is the same
>    amount of *energy* as 200a at 120.
> 
>    Look up a schematic for common home breaker boxes - "Square-D"
>    is typical for the USA. There are various vertical 'rails' the
>    breakers plug into. The 120v breakers plug into the left or
>    right side 'hots' and then to the neutral. 240v stuff, stoves,
>    A/C units, are always 'double-size' breakers and plug into
>    rails that reach across the 240 rails. Your electrician is
>    SUPPOSED to kind of balance the predicted loads so you
>    don't have too many breakers of a given kind on one rail
>    and 'side'. If the A/C is on the right, put the stove
>    on the left.
> 
>    Now what I've never heard a good reason for are the HUGE
>    ugly appliance plugs used in the UK. Somehow I don't see
>    a table lamp using 100 amps at 240v nor have I seen any
>    24,000w light bulbs at the hardware store :-)

They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different
current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they
standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly.

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#72868 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromGraham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Date2025-09-01 08:38 +0100
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<1093iif$3nbic$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72863
Ian wrote:

[snip]

> 
> They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different
> current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they
> standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly.

In the UK the main reason for the ugly 13A plugs with rectangular pins 
was to include a fuse - a feature which as far as I know is only present 
in UK plugs.  These are BS 1363.  They have shutters in the sockets, 
opened by the longer earth pin.

There was a variant installed in houses in the Wakefield area (and 
elsewhere, perhaps) in the 1950s was to make the "live" pin a removable 
fuse.  Of course what actually happened was that the fuse came unscrewed 
by itself and was left in the socket when the plug was removed.  Hey 
presto a live contact in the wall for anybody to touch!

So the 13A plugs were pushed country-wide.  Given that by 1950 most 
existing rubber-insulated domestic wiring was failing (the rubber 
perished) it all had to be replaced anyway.

The 13A rectangular pins are fairly inefficient at carrying large 
currents, despite their size, because the sockets only touch one or two 
faces with springy metal.  By contrast the earlier plugs (generally to 
BS 546) had round pins.  These were made in four sizes with current 
capacities from 2A to 30A.  Each receptacle was a cylinder split to 
provide some elasticity which thus made contact all round the pin and 
over a significant part of its length.

The round-pin style rated at 15A is widely used in theatre lighting 
installations specifically because it does not contain a fuse.  In 
principle each circuit is protected at a central point (usually the 
dimmer panel) so that a fuse can be replaced or a breaker reset without 
having to (get a ladder to) reach the distribution socket near the lamp 
itself.


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#72870 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-09-01 04:30 -0400
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<qM2dnTkYo6wmxCj1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#72868
On 9/1/25 3:38 AM, Graham J wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>
>> They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different
>> current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they
>> standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly.
> 
> In the UK the main reason for the ugly 13A plugs with rectangular pins 
> was to include a fuse - a feature which as far as I know is only present 
> in UK plugs.  These are BS 1363.  They have shutters in the sockets, 
> opened by the longer earth pin.
> 
> There was a variant installed in houses in the Wakefield area (and 
> elsewhere, perhaps) in the 1950s was to make the "live" pin a removable 
> fuse.  Of course what actually happened was that the fuse came unscrewed 
> by itself and was left in the socket when the plug was removed.  Hey 
> presto a live contact in the wall for anybody to touch!
> 
> So the 13A plugs were pushed country-wide.  Given that by 1950 most 
> existing rubber-insulated domestic wiring was failing (the rubber 
> perished) it all had to be replaced anyway.
> 
> The 13A rectangular pins are fairly inefficient at carrying large 
> currents, despite their size, because the sockets only touch one or two 
> faces with springy metal.  By contrast the earlier plugs (generally to 
> BS 546) had round pins.  These were made in four sizes with current 
> capacities from 2A to 30A.  Each receptacle was a cylinder split to 
> provide some elasticity which thus made contact all round the pin and 
> over a significant part of its length.
> 
> The round-pin style rated at 15A is widely used in theatre lighting 
> installations specifically because it does not contain a fuse.  In 
> principle each circuit is protected at a central point (usually the 
> dimmer panel) so that a fuse can be replaced or a breaker reset without 
> having to (get a ladder to) reach the distribution socket near the lamp 
> itself.

   Bad rubber ?

   Can still find USA 'rubber' plugs from the 1930s that
   are still perfectly good. This was from before synthetics.
   They're basically "tire rubber".

   Sometimes I wonder how much of this kind of stuff is REAL
   and how much is INVENTED to profit various commercial
   entities.

   Why ... we'll just have to replace EVERY outlet, maybe
   every inch of wire, in your house ! What's THAT cost ?
   What percent is profit ?

   Anyway, USA, almost everything except heavy appliances
   are 120v, typically 15a outlets but you can get 20a
   easily enough. 2-prong plugs have been standard for a
   hell of a long time, no dimensional changes. They DID
   add a slightly wider 'neutral' prong in the 60s/70s
   which was mostly a good thing. Still you can buy
   adapters ... two standard prongs and loose ground
   wire you're supposed to stick behind the outlet
   cover screw (USUALLY ground or at least neutral).

   Work done, INSIST on 12ga wire. SOME wags will claim
   14ga is good enough, but it isn't.

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#72879 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-09-01 10:55 +0100
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<1093qif$3ophr$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72870
On 01/09/2025 09:30, c186282 wrote:
> Sometimes I wonder how much of this kind of stuff is REAL
>    and how much is INVENTED to profit various commercial
>    entities.
> 
>    Why ... we'll just have to replace EVERY outlet, maybe
>    every inch of wire, in your house ! What's THAT cost ?
>    What percent is profit ?

That all happened over a period of years. My parents house built in 1953 
had rubber wiring *in steel conduit* which was the 'earth'.

Around about 1970 that was obsolete and the rubber used was starting to 
crumble. Still safe in steel conduit though.

Then extra wiring was needed for  more power more machines and more 
sockets,. That was extended in the modern style and a new fusebox fitted.
UK building regulations are *not* retrospective, houses built to old 
standards are allowed to exist, but not modernised extended or rebuilt 
to old standards.
Modern wiring with Twin and earth PVC cable is only to be installed *if* 
the old wiring constitutes a danger, and its typically the insurance 
company who will kick up a fuss.

Rewiring a house is not that expensive. Normally it's done every 60 
years or so when major refurbishment happens when a house is sold.

Profit for whom? The sockets are dirt cheap - less than $2 in USA terms, 
unless you want them gold plated...or made of brass..

Wire is cheap too. The biggest cost is simply labour - to pull the wires 
and connect them up. It's about 1/2 hr per socket. Pulling wires may 
take weeks if the paths are long and contorted

Fuse boxes (consumer units) are quite cheap but modern MCBS are a tad 
pricey.

So an electricity upgrade is in the thousands of dollars range, but 
seldom in the tens of thousands.


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#72881 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-09-01 12:05 +0200
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<3p7golx666.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#72879
On 2025-09-01 11:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 01/09/2025 09:30, c186282 wrote:
>> Sometimes I wonder how much of this kind of stuff is REAL
>>    and how much is INVENTED to profit various commercial
>>    entities.
>>
>>    Why ... we'll just have to replace EVERY outlet, maybe
>>    every inch of wire, in your house ! What's THAT cost ?
>>    What percent is profit ?
> 
> That all happened over a period of years. My parents house built in 1953 
> had rubber wiring *in steel conduit* which was the 'earth'.
> 
> Around about 1970 that was obsolete and the rubber used was starting to 
> crumble. Still safe in steel conduit though.
> 
> Then extra wiring was needed for  more power more machines and more 
> sockets,. That was extended in the modern style and a new fusebox fitted.
> UK building regulations are *not* retrospective, houses built to old 
> standards are allowed to exist, but not modernised extended or rebuilt 
> to old standards.
> Modern wiring with Twin and earth PVC cable is only to be installed *if* 
> the old wiring constitutes a danger, and its typically the insurance 
> company who will kick up a fuss.
> 
> Rewiring a house is not that expensive. Normally it's done every 60 
> years or so when major refurbishment happens when a house is sold.
> 
> Profit for whom? The sockets are dirt cheap - less than $2 in USA terms, 
> unless you want them gold plated...or made of brass..
> 
> Wire is cheap too. The biggest cost is simply labour - to pull the wires 
> and connect them up. It's about 1/2 hr per socket. Pulling wires may 
> take weeks if the paths are long and contorted
> 
> Fuse boxes (consumer units) are quite cheap but modern MCBS are a tad 
> pricey.
> 
> So an electricity upgrade is in the thousands of dollars range, but 
> seldom in the tens of thousands.

My house needs an electrical upgrade, but the first task is to replace 
the tubing, the current one is too narrow and will not allow thicker 
cables (and more cables). And to replace the tubing means digging a 
small trench in the brick walls, then close the trench and paint the 
walls back.

So I'm not doing it. Aiming instead to move to a flat, then the buyer 
will probably demolish the house.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#72885 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-09-01 06:35 -0400
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<qeOdndpczapg6yj1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#72881
On 9/1/25 6:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-09-01 11:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 01/09/2025 09:30, c186282 wrote:
>>> Sometimes I wonder how much of this kind of stuff is REAL
>>>    and how much is INVENTED to profit various commercial
>>>    entities.
>>>
>>>    Why ... we'll just have to replace EVERY outlet, maybe
>>>    every inch of wire, in your house ! What's THAT cost ?
>>>    What percent is profit ?
>>
>> That all happened over a period of years. My parents house built in 
>> 1953 had rubber wiring *in steel conduit* which was the 'earth'.
>>
>> Around about 1970 that was obsolete and the rubber used was starting 
>> to crumble. Still safe in steel conduit though.
>>
>> Then extra wiring was needed for  more power more machines and more 
>> sockets,. That was extended in the modern style and a new fusebox fitted.
>> UK building regulations are *not* retrospective, houses built to old 
>> standards are allowed to exist, but not modernised extended or rebuilt 
>> to old standards.
>> Modern wiring with Twin and earth PVC cable is only to be installed 
>> *if* the old wiring constitutes a danger, and its typically the 
>> insurance company who will kick up a fuss.
>>
>> Rewiring a house is not that expensive. Normally it's done every 60 
>> years or so when major refurbishment happens when a house is sold.
>>
>> Profit for whom? The sockets are dirt cheap - less than $2 in USA 
>> terms, unless you want them gold plated...or made of brass..
>>
>> Wire is cheap too. The biggest cost is simply labour - to pull the 
>> wires and connect them up. It's about 1/2 hr per socket. Pulling wires 
>> may take weeks if the paths are long and contorted
>>
>> Fuse boxes (consumer units) are quite cheap but modern MCBS are a tad 
>> pricey.
>>
>> So an electricity upgrade is in the thousands of dollars range, but 
>> seldom in the tens of thousands.
> 
> My house needs an electrical upgrade, but the first task is to replace 
> the tubing, the current one is too narrow and will not allow thicker 
> cables (and more cables). And to replace the tubing means digging a 
> small trench in the brick walls, then close the trench and paint the 
> walls back.
> 
> So I'm not doing it. Aiming instead to move to a flat, then the buyer 
> will probably demolish the house.


   Steel/aluminum flex conduit MAY save you here. However
   getting it down what's left of the existing conduits,
   probably half-inch, may not work.

   Oh, alt to grooving walls ... just do like they do in
   the old British castles/landmarks - fully exposed tubes,
   usually tucked in the top corner of the wall. Paint to
   hide or some other method.

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#72890 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-09-01 12:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<1093vh9$3ophr$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72885
On 01/09/2025 11:35, c186282 wrote:
> Oh, alt to grooving walls ... just do like they do in
>    the old British castles/landmarks - fully exposed tubes,
>    usually tucked in the top corner of the wall. Paint to
>    hide or some other method.

Yes. Chipping away at 1000 year old stone walls is not ideal...

Make me wonder what cabin Carlos lives in...

-- 
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always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

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#72896 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-09-01 13:31 +0200
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<tpcgolxh1o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#72890
On 2025-09-01 13:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 01/09/2025 11:35, c186282 wrote:
>> Oh, alt to grooving walls ... just do like they do in
>>    the old British castles/landmarks - fully exposed tubes,
>>    usually tucked in the top corner of the wall. Paint to
>>    hide or some other method.
> 
> Yes. Chipping away at 1000 year old stone walls is not ideal...
> 
> Make me wonder what cabin Carlos lives in...
> 

It is a century old house with outer walls of stone and mortar/concrete, 
and inner walls of brick (some of them solid brick), built on what was a 
swamp, so there is humidity creeping from the soil. Quite cold in 
winter, unheatable, despite the mild Mediterranean climate. Oh, and I 
have cracked walls, too.

The entire district is "protected". If you tear down the house, you have 
to rebuild with the same outside aspect.

Was the outer edge of the city when built, now it is centric.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#72898 — Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-09-01 12:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)
Message-ID<10940nj$3ophr$18@dont-email.me>
In reply to#72896
On 01/09/2025 12:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-09-01 13:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 01/09/2025 11:35, c186282 wrote:
>>> Oh, alt to grooving walls ... just do like they do in
>>>    the old British castles/landmarks - fully exposed tubes,
>>>    usually tucked in the top corner of the wall. Paint to
>>>    hide or some other method.
>>
>> Yes. Chipping away at 1000 year old stone walls is not ideal...
>>
>> Make me wonder what cabin Carlos lives in...
>>
> 
> It is a century old house with outer walls of stone and mortar/concrete, 
> and inner walls of brick (some of them solid brick), built on what was a 
> swamp, so there is humidity creeping from the soil. Quite cold in 
> winter, unheatable, despite the mild Mediterranean climate. Oh, and I 
> have cracked walls, too.
> 
> The entire district is "protected". If you tear down the house, you have 
> to rebuild with the same outside aspect.
> 
> Was the outer edge of the city when built, now it is centric.
> 
Wonderful;. I'd love to take that on, given the money.

Reminds me of someone I knew who bought a 'listed' (protected) building. 
But it was the outside appearance that was 'listed' the builder built a 
new house inside the outer structure, insulated and cosy. Complete with 
a second layer of window glazing.

And the damp is in the original walls, but they have a layer of 
waterproofing and insulation over them before the inner house is reached..,


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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
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