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| Started by | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-08-03 03:18 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-08-15 07:54 +0000 |
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Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-03 03:18 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:13 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 06:08 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 00:13 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:24 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 02:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:26 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 05:14 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:37 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-04 15:13 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 08:42 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 19:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 09:30 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 23:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 06:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 05:59 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-06 02:05 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-07 18:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 04:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-04 07:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:26 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 09:05 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 06:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 09:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 20:37 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:13 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 12:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 22:00 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 13:20 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-04 14:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:34 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:58 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:19 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 20:53 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 18:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 20:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:31 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:22 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:33 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:32 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:31 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:11 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 19:57 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:34 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 20:58 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:55 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 14:33 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-07 06:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 22:18 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-07 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 09:10 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 21:38 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 12:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 22:15 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-08 10:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:01 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 04:13 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 00:58 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 13:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-09 10:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-10 18:37 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 12:08 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-12 04:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-12 18:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:46 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 21:29 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 04:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 11:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 20:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:36 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 09:14 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:29 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 22:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 04:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 03:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:08 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 23:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 01:28 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-14 19:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 03:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-15 11:45 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:56 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:32 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 00:28 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 16:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 02:19 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 20:20 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 13:12 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:33 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-17 18:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 20:57 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:50 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:59 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 07:11 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:16 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:33 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:33 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:31 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 14:20 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:46 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:35 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:02 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 05:24 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:35 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:44 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:33 +0000
CD-DA and CD-ROM (was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 09:38 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 15:23 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 14:32 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-17 10:26 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:33 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:53 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:08 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:52 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:00 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:53 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:28 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 02:38 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:50 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:58 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 22:02 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:34 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:13 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 19:10 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 03:19 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:28 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 18:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:50 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 05:15 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:24 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 20:17 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:57 -0400
POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-21 21:24 +1000
Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:32 +0100
Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:07 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:14 -0700
Re: Teslas and Toyotas Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 18:35 +0000
Re: Teslas and Toyotas rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:37 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 14:07 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 18:19 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:55 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:42 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 19:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 17:01 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:36 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 11:20 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 14:37 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 13:51 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:42 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:01 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 16:07 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:34 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 03:38 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 11:47 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:04 -0700
Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 22:19 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 15:08 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:35 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:17 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:55 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:24 -0400
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:06 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:40 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-29 12:16 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:23 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-30 10:37 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:57 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:18 +1000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:16 +1000
Capitalism and Population collapse [Re: Costs of transport] Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 13:46 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:11 +0000
Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:19 +0100
Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:45 +0100
Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:56 +0100
Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:23 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 08:30 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 06:06 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:32 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:02 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:49 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:27 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 14:25 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:20 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:17 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 23:12 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 22:43 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:26 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 04:01 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:58 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0000
Herbs and banks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:47 +0200
Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:48 +0000
Re: Herbs and banks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 07:56 +0100
Re: Herbs and banks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:59 -0400
Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:50 +0000
Re: Herbs and banks Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 14:12 -0700
Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:09 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 21:53 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:27 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:31 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:47 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:07 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:43 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 02:31 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-30 07:21 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:00 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 20:45 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:35 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:46 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:21 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:32 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:28 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:32 -0700
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:45 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:27 -0400
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:52 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:02 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:29 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:28 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:34 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:10 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:43 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:04 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 10:59 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:24 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:36 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:53 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:33 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:47 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:21 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:45 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:22 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-31 12:09 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 21:57 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:30 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:44 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:55 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:05 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:57 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:05 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 20:08 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:47 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 04:18 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:18 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:09 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:42 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 22:47 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:30 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:47 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:45 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:17 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:32 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:38 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:53 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:29 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:49 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:49 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-27 06:10 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-27 12:06 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:40 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:20 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-27 13:18 -0500
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:42 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:49 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:57 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:43 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:38 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:28 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:35 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 22:15 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:18 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:34 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:57 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-29 08:52 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:56 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:16 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 09:58 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:08 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:26 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:27 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:21 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-08-29 14:04 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:18 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:47 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:26 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:28 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:15 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:02 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:14 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:10 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-08-30 18:37 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:03 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:05 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-31 09:07 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:41 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 18:55 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:54 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:37 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:40 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:47 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:45 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 03:27 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:17 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:31 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:26 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 00:53 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:29 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:24 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:30 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:27 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:13 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:06 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:01 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:09 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:51 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:08 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:13 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:04 +0100
Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:58 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:30 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:18 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:43 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:34 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:43 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:13 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:36 +0200
Re: Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-09-03 15:03 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:03 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:45 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 08:00 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:16 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-09-01 19:28 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 21:49 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:32 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:15 +0100
Storey "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:28 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:59 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:52 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:45 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:17 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 12:31 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:46 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:03 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:27 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:58 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:03 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:24 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 17:30 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:39 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:03 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 11:50 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:27 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:27 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:28 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:34 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:49 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:29 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:51 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:01 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:30 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:36 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:07 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:00 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 11:28 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:36 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 13:52 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 17:53 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 18:14 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:39 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:20 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:24 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:36 +0100
Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0200
Re: Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:12 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:57 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:14 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:08 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:10 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:19 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:57 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:39 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:07 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:31 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:07 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:54 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:47 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:49 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:28 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:26 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:10 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 01:09 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:29 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:03 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:24 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:58 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 01:02 +0000
Non glamorous military things "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:25 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:05 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:35 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-29 11:10 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:23 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:21 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:28 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:01 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 04:52 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:50 +0000
Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 21:30 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:01 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 07:49 +0200
Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 17:22 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 21:22 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 22:51 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-08-31 22:31 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-01 08:38 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:30 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:55 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:05 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:35 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:20 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:31 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:40 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:07 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:39 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:36 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:12 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:36 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:21 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:19 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:32 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:46 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:09 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:45 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:02 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:10 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:29 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:40 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:49 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:39 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:55 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:18 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:55 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:23 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:08 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 07:46 -0700
Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 19:49 +0200
Re: Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 02:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:25 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 15:39 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:42 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:19 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:41 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:24 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:32 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:49 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:33 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:25 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:49 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:47 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:04 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:23 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:48 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:36 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:34 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:42 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 01:52 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:27 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:20 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:01 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:24 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:28 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:43 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:10 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:26 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:40 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:22 +0000
House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:59 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:04 +0000
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:47 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:10 +0000
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 23:08 -0700
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 03:06 -0400
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:04 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:49 +0100
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:07 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:21 +0100
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 20:29 +0000
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:39 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 23:53 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:21 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:39 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 04:46 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 01:48 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:24 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:30 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:47 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 05:13 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:23 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:41 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:01 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:01 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:13 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:10 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:05 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-09-01 09:06 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 17:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:03 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:17 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-02 13:09 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 13:39 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:51 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:48 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:40 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:33 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:54 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-06 14:16 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 13:22 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 15:01 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:47 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:08 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:33 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:52 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:30 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:11 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 06:30 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:51 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:26 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:44 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:52 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:27 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:55 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 02:05 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:32 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:06 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 20:10 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-06 13:28 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 20:41 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-06 21:39 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 23:16 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 13:49 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:25 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:05 -0700
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 21:34 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 16:02 -0700
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:07 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 17:58 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 19:17 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 23:12 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:52 -0400
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:34 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 19:23 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 16:53 -0400
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 01:35 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 22:42 -0400
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:45 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 20:00 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:33 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:00 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 18:10 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:15 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 11:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:17 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:25 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:07 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 03:08 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 08:50 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 05:03 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:25 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 07:14 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 00:16 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 02:59 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:44 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-09 13:34 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:29 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:47 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 14:22 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:35 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-10 03:23 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:26 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:30 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:19 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:52 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:19 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 04:22 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:03 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:51 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:29 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:12 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:15 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:58 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 23:56 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:31 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:28 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:16 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 15:17 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:02 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:34 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 22:07 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:13 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:28 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:11 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:34 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:06 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:00 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:10 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:00 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:30 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:57 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:20 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 04:45 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:45 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:02 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 05:57 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:25 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:45 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:27 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:30 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-06 10:54 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:48 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:54 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-07 23:48 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:29 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:22 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:41 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:59 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:42 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:02 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:38 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-05 18:45 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:35 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:34 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:53 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:02 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:45 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:09 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:20 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:44 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:13 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 23:03 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:06 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:25 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 04:03 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:22 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 08:09 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:57 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:44 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:10 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:33 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:46 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:14 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:44 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 12:02 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:44 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:36 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:35 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:57 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 22:26 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 17:01 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:16 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:45 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:12 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:12 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:10 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:37 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:30 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 15:35 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:08 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:03 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:00 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:34 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:32 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:19 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 12:15 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:21 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:20 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:19 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:20 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:45 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:49 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:08 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:17 +0000
[OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 10:20 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:08 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:26 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 06:15 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:24 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 08:48 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:35 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:36 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:05 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 19:03 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:33 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:22 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:32 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:18 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:02 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 12:54 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:43 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:58 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:24 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:19 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:49 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:26 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 14:51 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 16:59 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:10 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:17 +0200
Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:55 +0200
Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:25 +0100
Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 16:30 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 19:37 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:29 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 09:20 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-26 04:23 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:54 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 19:40 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:35 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 12:59 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 21:53 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 14:03 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:46 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:57 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:11 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:35 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 01:16 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:38 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:19 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-08-28 10:06 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:02 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:55 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:31 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:33 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:42 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:51 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:47 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:58 +0100
Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:46 +0200
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:03 +0100
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:10 +0000
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:32 +0100
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 04:11 -0400
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:38 +0100
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:27 -0400
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:07 +0000
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 03:04 -0400
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 22:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:17 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:54 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 23:21 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:01 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:38 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 21:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 19:04 +0000
High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:51 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:54 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:58 +0200
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 13:45 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:47 +0200
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:46 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:42 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:45 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 23:30 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 01:34 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-10 06:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 11:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 08:59 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 23:46 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-08 20:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 23:02 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:58 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 04:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:06 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 13:33 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 01:04 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-10 23:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 13:50 +0200
Good Old DOS and Ancient Windows: TSR Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-08-11 10:32 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:34 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:12 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:29 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 10:06 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 02:56 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 08:07 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 03:55 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 10:59 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:39 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 06:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 17:58 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-07 10:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 17:47 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:03 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 18:12 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:43 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:43 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:40 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:53 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:43 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:15 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:07 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:53 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:45 +0800
[OT] Minix "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:55 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 14:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 12:48 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 21:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:22 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 22:17 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:26 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:32 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:38 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-12 09:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 08:18 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 14:02 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 06:46 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 08:18 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:19 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 14:49 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:21 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 23:24 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:23 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 13:36 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-10 12:42 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-10 12:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 15:53 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-10 15:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:12 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 12:05 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 20:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-12 01:42 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-12 19:55 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:41 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-12 18:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-12 19:59 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-12 16:47 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 02:36 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 09:50 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-13 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 14:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 10:52 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-13 03:04 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 06:16 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 05:22 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-13 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 01:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:19 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 20:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 00:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:06 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-14 19:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:16 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-14 13:04 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:19 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-15 13:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 09:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-16 14:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 15:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 06:52 +0000
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 21:41 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <ywJtQ.890320$l%O3.737378@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #73082 |
On 2025-09-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 05:13:21 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Hey, ZIP-DRIVES were supposed to be The Future ! >> >> Hey, it DID work OK in its day. > > Right. I think I may have a QIC-80 drive in my personal museum too, > in the bottom of some crate. I'll see your QIC and raise you a SyQuest removable hard drive (45MB). -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <mhq2uhF86pgU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #73090 |
On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 21:41:50 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-09-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 05:13:21 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Hey, ZIP-DRIVES were supposed to be The Future ! >>> >>> Hey, it DID work OK in its day. >> >> Right. I think I may have a QIC-80 drive in my personal museum too, >> in the bottom of some crate. > > I'll see your QIC and raise you a SyQuest removable hard drive (45MB). I fold.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 12:01 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <mtriolx04k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #72969 |
On 2025-09-02 06:47, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 02:30:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> At my first job, first month perhaps, we killed a PC. I don't remember >> if it was me or my boss that plugged the centronics connector of a >> printer into the PC, and I saw a tiny spark. Sure enough, the printer >> port was dead. > > I killed the Centronics port on one machine but I had plugged in a > homegrown EPROM burner and screwed something up. You could do many things > with the parallel port that didn't involve a printer. Some used it for > dongles. I may have an external Iomega Zip drive around here that used it. > 100 MB of removable storage. What more would you ever need? Yes. Iomega zip drive, dongle for authentication of machine (anti-copy protection), long cable to transfer files from computer to computer... -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 00:01 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <JWadnT-A65iI8Sv1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #72952 |
On 9/1/25 5:24 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 04:30:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Anyway, USA, almost everything except heavy appliances are 120v, >> typically 15a outlets but you can get 20a easily enough. 2-prong >> plugs have been standard for a hell of a long time, no dimensional >> changes. They DID add a slightly wider 'neutral' prong in the 60s/70s >> which was mostly a good thing. Still you can buy adapters ... two >> standard prongs and loose ground wire you're supposed to stick behind >> the outlet cover screw (USUALLY ground or at least neutral). > > I've got to get a cheap power strip if I resurrect the old Compaq in the > shed. The computer and monitor power cords are 3-prong. In my more > impulsive moments I've been know to cut off the ground prong. That's no > different than using and adapter and not bothering with grounding the > little tab. You can usually get away with it, esp with plastic-cased machines. Everything USED to be metal though, and the body MIGHT wind up on the 'hot' side. OUCH !!! One good use of ground is in things like transient surge protection. The MOVs sometimes reference ground, not neutral. Building wiring is not twisted-pair, it's possible to get a pulse on one line that's not mirrored on the other. For rf & audio equipment a good ground can work wonders against 'hum'. Ground is the only natural zero reference. > Oddly the AC weed whacker only has two prongs but I did add a GFI socket > and approved external receptacle for it. I use the same for the heated cat > bowl in the winter. I'd rather not fry the little nuisances. GFI is good - recommended - for 'damp' locations. If you have outlets in a bathroom then DO use GFI. Note, had ONE GFI receptacle where I worked that just EXPLODED. It was in a water-resistant housing and kind of MELTED it. Had some pro electricians over that day to rewire a number of things and they were outrightly impressed. GFI *breakers* may be slightly safer. If anything explodes it will be inside the steel wiring box, not in your face. Now the explosion MAY have been caused by a lightning strike, but I'm not 100% sure.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 12:13 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <3ksiolx4om.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #72965 |
On 2025-09-02 06:01, c186282 wrote: > On 9/1/25 5:24 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 04:30:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: ... >> Oddly the AC weed whacker only has two prongs but I did add a GFI socket >> and approved external receptacle for it. I use the same for the heated >> cat >> bowl in the winter. I'd rather not fry the little nuisances. > > GFI is good - recommended - for 'damp' locations. If you > have outlets in a bathroom then DO use GFI. In Spain it is mandatory to have a GFI on the entire house. Probably same thing in the EU. Mine was trigger happy. I replaced it recently with one that is "superinmunized" and class A. Recommended for places with computers and inverters. Since I did that, no more triggers. Although mine will automatically reset. Has a tiny motor, and nine seconds after triggering it resets. If that triggers again, then it waits 59", and then a last attempt at 299". So far, never happened, but in the past I came back home from a trip with the electricity out and an awful rotten smell coming out from the fridge. <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F2TJK8SQ> (horrible translation to English) -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-01 12:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <a28golxop8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #72868 |
On 2025-09-01 09:38, Graham J wrote: > Ian wrote: > > [snip] > >> >> They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different >> current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they >> standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly. > > In the UK the main reason for the ugly 13A plugs with rectangular pins > was to include a fuse - a feature which as far as I know is only present > in UK plugs. These are BS 1363. They have shutters in the sockets, > opened by the longer earth pin. We had once a tv set (Spain) with a standard glass fuse (think small) inside of the small plug. It was plugged with a screwed cap, I don't remember if metallic. > > There was a variant installed in houses in the Wakefield area (and > elsewhere, perhaps) in the 1950s was to make the "live" pin a removable > fuse. Of course what actually happened was that the fuse came unscrewed > by itself and was left in the socket when the plug was removed. Hey > presto a live contact in the wall for anybody to touch! > > So the 13A plugs were pushed country-wide. Given that by 1950 most > existing rubber-insulated domestic wiring was failing (the rubber > perished) it all had to be replaced anyway. > > The 13A rectangular pins are fairly inefficient at carrying large > currents, despite their size, because the sockets only touch one or two > faces with springy metal. By contrast the earlier plugs (generally to > BS 546) had round pins. These were made in four sizes with current > capacities from 2A to 30A. Each receptacle was a cylinder split to > provide some elasticity which thus made contact all round the pin and > over a significant part of its length. Yet the design allows for large surface contact. > > The round-pin style rated at 15A is widely used in theatre lighting > installations specifically because it does not contain a fuse. In > principle each circuit is protected at a central point (usually the > dimmer panel) so that a fuse can be replaced or a breaker reset without > having to (get a ladder to) reach the distribution socket near the lamp > itself. heh! -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-09-01 04:05 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <yYydnaSVfqcrzij1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #72863 |
On 9/1/25 1:31 AM, Ian wrote: > c186282 wrote: > >> On 8/30/25 5:30 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>> *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit >>>>>>>> with 60 amps. >>>>>>>> The USA standard is *200* amps. >>> >>> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. Yes, >>>>>>> I have AC. >>> >>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 amps. >>> >>> On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit. >>> >>> Bull...! >>> >>> My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more >>> solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have >>> to upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot >>> of rewiring. With a 100 amp service, the copde would only allow me to >>> have 5kW of solar generation power. So that option was cost >>> prohibitive. So I put in a 14kW natiural gas powered generator to use >>> when wildfires take the grid down. Comes on in 10 seconds when the >>> power drops. >>> >>> At work, we have a couple of window A/C units. Each of them shares >>> a 10 amp circuit (1200 W) with some other minor things such as lamps >>> desktop computers. I doubt they draw more than 800W. I.e. similar to >>> a microwave oven. >>> >>> An yes, we also have a central HVAC system at that house. No problem. >> >> >> Ya know ..... I think you were being conned by those >> hoping for a huge profit from re-working your whole >> system. >> >> So long as your inverter didn't deliver more than 100a >> regardless, your existing service would have been fine. >> 100a should usually be enough for an 'average home', so >> you could have put the extra money into more batteries. >> >> Now if you ran out and just HAD to buy a nine room "McMansion" >> in 90s ... well. Probably takes 100a just to juice the hot tub >> and mini-Olympic pool ! :-) >> >> Note there are several contributors to this thread. Some >> are USA, some are UK or Oz. The USA home systems are always >> 240/120v while the UK is 240v-all. 100a at 240 is the same >> amount of *energy* as 200a at 120. >> >> Look up a schematic for common home breaker boxes - "Square-D" >> is typical for the USA. There are various vertical 'rails' the >> breakers plug into. The 120v breakers plug into the left or >> right side 'hots' and then to the neutral. 240v stuff, stoves, >> A/C units, are always 'double-size' breakers and plug into >> rails that reach across the 240 rails. Your electrician is >> SUPPOSED to kind of balance the predicted loads so you >> don't have too many breakers of a given kind on one rail >> and 'side'. If the A/C is on the right, put the stove >> on the left. >> >> Now what I've never heard a good reason for are the HUGE >> ugly appliance plugs used in the UK. Somehow I don't see >> a table lamp using 100 amps at 240v nor have I seen any >> 24,000w light bulbs at the hardware store :-) > > They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different > current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they > standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly. Any idea WHY ??? USA, the plugs are just good/big enough and pretty aesthetic. Even for an electric stove the bigger 50a plugs are still fairly compact and aesthetic. There are SOME 30a plugs too - kind of mid-sized, typically one of the poles is 'sideways'. See 'em on small generators a lot. Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) We MAY just be looking at "first-ness" here - the UK coming to a very early, maybe premature, standard back when materials were still crap. NOW they cannot change ....... USA ... dedicated neutrals were slowly introduced in the 60s/70s. Had to trim the 'fatter' neutrals more than once because it was easier than replacing the old socket. Old - usually metal-cased - tools and appliances COULD shock the shit out of you before the new standard. Ya didn't know WHICH prong was neutral unless you had a meter. Have an old mechanical calculator - "Marchant" - a zillion gears and cogs and at least two motors. Super-fun to watch it work - BUT even the cord just had two blacks, and if you plugged it in wrong it WOULD shock the shit out of you. So, kind of happy for the dedicated neutral now AND the addition of the round ground prong. Got shocked more than enough ! Fortunately, old US wall plug design had enough space for the new ground prongs without changing the old geometry. Can STILL buy adapters though - a 2-prong thing with a loose ground wire hanging out. Generally you attach it to the outlet cover-screw. Not perfect but better than nothing.
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| From | Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> |
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| Date | 2025-09-01 09:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <1094g9v$26hbg$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #72869 |
c186282 wrote: > On 9/1/25 1:31 AM, Ian wrote: >> c186282 wrote: >> >>> On 8/30/25 5:30 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote: >>>> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>> *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit >>>>>>>>> with 60 amps. >>>>>>>>> The USA standard is *200* amps. >>>> >>>> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. >>>>>>>> Yes, I have AC. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>> You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 >>>>>> amps. >>>> >>>> On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit. >>>> >>>> Bull...! >>>> >>>> My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more >>>> solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have >>>> to upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot >>>> of rewiring. With a 100 amp service, the copde would only allow me >>>> to have 5kW of solar generation power. So that option was cost >>>> prohibitive. So I put in a 14kW natiural gas powered generator to >>>> use when wildfires take the grid down. Comes on in 10 seconds when >>>> the power drops. >>>> >>>> At work, we have a couple of window A/C units. Each of them shares >>>> a 10 amp circuit (1200 W) with some other minor things such as >>>> lamps desktop computers. I doubt they draw more than 800W. I.e. >>>> similar to a microwave oven. >>>> >>>> An yes, we also have a central HVAC system at that house. No >>>> problem. >>> >>> >>> Ya know ..... I think you were being conned by those >>> hoping for a huge profit from re-working your whole >>> system. >>> >>> So long as your inverter didn't deliver more than 100a >>> regardless, your existing service would have been fine. >>> 100a should usually be enough for an 'average home', so >>> you could have put the extra money into more batteries. >>> >>> Now if you ran out and just HAD to buy a nine room "McMansion" >>> in 90s ... well. Probably takes 100a just to juice the hot tub >>> and mini-Olympic pool ! :-) >>> >>> Note there are several contributors to this thread. Some >>> are USA, some are UK or Oz. The USA home systems are always >>> 240/120v while the UK is 240v-all. 100a at 240 is the same >>> amount of *energy* as 200a at 120. >>> >>> Look up a schematic for common home breaker boxes - "Square-D" >>> is typical for the USA. There are various vertical 'rails' the >>> breakers plug into. The 120v breakers plug into the left or >>> right side 'hots' and then to the neutral. 240v stuff, stoves, >>> A/C units, are always 'double-size' breakers and plug into >>> rails that reach across the 240 rails. Your electrician is >>> SUPPOSED to kind of balance the predicted loads so you >>> don't have too many breakers of a given kind on one rail >>> and 'side'. If the A/C is on the right, put the stove >>> on the left. >>> >>> Now what I've never heard a good reason for are the HUGE >>> ugly appliance plugs used in the UK. Somehow I don't see >>> a table lamp using 100 amps at 240v nor have I seen any >>> 24,000w light bulbs at the hardware store :-) >> >> They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different >> current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they >> standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly. > > Any idea WHY ??? > > USA, the plugs are just good/big enough and pretty > aesthetic. Even for an electric stove the bigger 50a > plugs are still fairly compact and aesthetic. There > are SOME 30a plugs too - kind of mid-sized, typically > one of the poles is 'sideways'. See 'em on small > generators a lot. > > Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! > > Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) > > We MAY just be looking at "first-ness" here - the > UK coming to a very early, maybe premature, standard > back when materials were still crap. NOW they > cannot change ....... > > USA ... dedicated neutrals were slowly introduced > in the 60s/70s. Had to trim the 'fatter' neutrals > more than once because it was easier than replacing > the old socket. Old - usually metal-cased - tools > and appliances COULD shock the shit out of you > before the new standard. Ya didn't know WHICH > prong was neutral unless you had a meter. Have > an old mechanical calculator - "Marchant" - a > zillion gears and cogs and at least two motors. > Super-fun to watch it work - BUT even the cord > just had two blacks, and if you plugged it in > wrong it WOULD shock the shit out of you. > > So, kind of happy for the dedicated neutral now > AND the addition of the round ground prong. Got > shocked more than enough ! Fortunately, old US > wall plug design had enough space for the new > ground prongs without changing the old geometry. > Can STILL buy adapters though - a 2-prong thing > with a loose ground wire hanging out. Generally > you attach it to the outlet cover-screw. Not > perfect but better than nothing. The UK 13a standard plug has a (replaceable) fuse inside. In theory you can have each appliance with an appropriate fuse, so a fault in one doesn't take down the whole circuit. In practice, I think most people have a stock of 15a fuses that they use as replacements.... -- *********** To reply by e-mail, make w single in address **************
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-01 17:56 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) |
| Message-ID | <1094j7p$3vth9$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72935 |
On 01/09/2025 17:06, Ian wrote: > c186282 wrote: > >> On 9/1/25 1:31 AM, Ian wrote: >>> c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/30/25 5:30 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote: >>>>> On 2025-08-29 10:35, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> *60* amps ??????????????? Can't even start a decent A/C unit >>>>>>>>>> with 60 amps. >>>>>>>>>> The USA standard is *200* amps. >>>>> >>>>> On 29/08/2025 21:28, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>>> My entire house is 10 amps, at 230 volts. Old installation. >>>>>>>>> Yes, I have AC. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 04:52:22 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>> You can't even start the smallest window A/C unit on 10 >>>>>>> amps. >>>>> >>>>> On 2025-08-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>>> Lucky me, I've never had a window A/C unit. >>>>> >>>>> Bull...! >>>>> >>>>> My 1950's house has a 100 amp service. I wanted to add a few more >>>>> solar panels, but was told that to add more than 5 panels, I'd have >>>>> to upgrade to a 200 amp service, replace the meter box and do a lot >>>>> of rewiring. With a 100 amp service, the copde would only allow me >>>>> to have 5kW of solar generation power. So that option was cost >>>>> prohibitive. So I put in a 14kW natiural gas powered generator to >>>>> use when wildfires take the grid down. Comes on in 10 seconds when >>>>> the power drops. >>>>> >>>>> At work, we have a couple of window A/C units. Each of them shares >>>>> a 10 amp circuit (1200 W) with some other minor things such as >>>>> lamps desktop computers. I doubt they draw more than 800W. I.e. >>>>> similar to a microwave oven. >>>>> >>>>> An yes, we also have a central HVAC system at that house. No >>>>> problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> Ya know ..... I think you were being conned by those >>>> hoping for a huge profit from re-working your whole >>>> system. >>>> >>>> So long as your inverter didn't deliver more than 100a >>>> regardless, your existing service would have been fine. >>>> 100a should usually be enough for an 'average home', so >>>> you could have put the extra money into more batteries. >>>> >>>> Now if you ran out and just HAD to buy a nine room "McMansion" >>>> in 90s ... well. Probably takes 100a just to juice the hot tub >>>> and mini-Olympic pool ! :-) >>>> >>>> Note there are several contributors to this thread. Some >>>> are USA, some are UK or Oz. The USA home systems are always >>>> 240/120v while the UK is 240v-all. 100a at 240 is the same >>>> amount of *energy* as 200a at 120. >>>> >>>> Look up a schematic for common home breaker boxes - "Square-D" >>>> is typical for the USA. There are various vertical 'rails' the >>>> breakers plug into. The 120v breakers plug into the left or >>>> right side 'hots' and then to the neutral. 240v stuff, stoves, >>>> A/C units, are always 'double-size' breakers and plug into >>>> rails that reach across the 240 rails. Your electrician is >>>> SUPPOSED to kind of balance the predicted loads so you >>>> don't have too many breakers of a given kind on one rail >>>> and 'side'. If the A/C is on the right, put the stove >>>> on the left. >>>> >>>> Now what I've never heard a good reason for are the HUGE >>>> ugly appliance plugs used in the UK. Somehow I don't see >>>> a table lamp using 100 amps at 240v nor have I seen any >>>> 24,000w light bulbs at the hardware store :-) >>> >>> They used to have 3 kinds of ugly plugs, for circuits of different >>> current capacities, 2, 13 and 15a if I remember correctly. Then they >>> standardized on 13a, but kept the ugly. >> >> Any idea WHY ??? >> >> USA, the plugs are just good/big enough and pretty >> aesthetic. Even for an electric stove the bigger 50a >> plugs are still fairly compact and aesthetic. There >> are SOME 30a plugs too - kind of mid-sized, typically >> one of the poles is 'sideways'. See 'em on small >> generators a lot. >> >> Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! >> >> Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) >> >> We MAY just be looking at "first-ness" here - the >> UK coming to a very early, maybe premature, standard >> back when materials were still crap. NOW they >> cannot change ....... >> >> USA ... dedicated neutrals were slowly introduced >> in the 60s/70s. Had to trim the 'fatter' neutrals >> more than once because it was easier than replacing >> the old socket. Old - usually metal-cased - tools >> and appliances COULD shock the shit out of you >> before the new standard. Ya didn't know WHICH >> prong was neutral unless you had a meter. Have >> an old mechanical calculator - "Marchant" - a >> zillion gears and cogs and at least two motors. >> Super-fun to watch it work - BUT even the cord >> just had two blacks, and if you plugged it in >> wrong it WOULD shock the shit out of you. >> >> So, kind of happy for the dedicated neutral now >> AND the addition of the round ground prong. Got >> shocked more than enough ! Fortunately, old US >> wall plug design had enough space for the new >> ground prongs without changing the old geometry. >> Can STILL buy adapters though - a 2-prong thing >> with a loose ground wire hanging out. Generally >> you attach it to the outlet cover-screw. Not >> perfect but better than nothing. > > The UK 13a standard plug has a (replaceable) fuse inside. In theory you > can have each appliance with an appropriate fuse, so a fault in one > doesn't take down the whole circuit. In practice, I think most people > have a stock of 15a fuses that they use as replacements.... > Not me. 15A is illegal. I have 13A 5A and 3A. You can buy mixed packets https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pack-Mixed-Fuses-5x13-Amp/dp/B00CM7ZAEA/ -- “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.” Herbert Spencer
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 11:03 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <1096fcv$djbq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72935 |
On 2025-09-01, Ian wrote: > c186282 wrote: [...] >> Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! >> >> Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) I think one notorious difference that I've seen mentioned a couple times on the web is that water kettles will boil water more quickly. And that in the US stovetop kettles were more often seen because such electric kettles wouldn't be as fast as in ~240V. Now I've got no idea of how precise such assessments are. [...] >> USA ... dedicated neutrals were slowly introduced >> in the 60s/70s. Had to trim the 'fatter' neutrals >> more than once because it was easier than replacing >> the old socket. Old - usually metal-cased - tools >> and appliances COULD shock the shit out of you >> before the new standard. Ya didn't know WHICH >> prong was neutral unless you had a meter. Have >> an old mechanical calculator - "Marchant" - a >> zillion gears and cogs and at least two motors. >> Super-fun to watch it work - BUT even the cord >> just had two blacks, and if you plugged it in >> wrong it WOULD shock the shit out of you. >> >> So, kind of happy for the dedicated neutral now >> AND the addition of the round ground prong. Got >> shocked more than enough ! Fortunately, old US >> wall plug design had enough space for the new >> ground prongs without changing the old geometry. >> Can STILL buy adapters though - a 2-prong thing >> with a loose ground wire hanging out. Generally >> you attach it to the outlet cover-screw. Not >> perfect but better than nothing. > > The UK 13a standard plug has a (replaceable) fuse inside. In theory you > can have each appliance with an appropriate fuse, so a fault in one > doesn't take down the whole circuit. In practice, I think most people > have a stock of 15a fuses that they use as replacements.... How does that compare to having e.g. RCD breakers and similar devices that do not require replacing a fuse? Is it just a matter of the electrical wiring/installation being new enough to feature these, or are there other trade-offs? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 12:17 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <vqsiolx4om.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #72986 |
On 2025-09-02 12:03, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-09-01, Ian wrote: > >> c186282 wrote: > [...] >>> Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! >>> >>> Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) > > I think one notorious difference that I've seen mentioned a couple times > on the web is that water kettles will boil water more quickly. And that > in the US stovetop kettles were more often seen because such electric > kettles wouldn't be as fast as in ~240V. Now I've got no idea of how > precise such assessments are. It is true. UK kettles are more powerful. Doubling the voltage with the same current means double power. >> >> The UK 13a standard plug has a (replaceable) fuse inside. In theory you >> can have each appliance with an appropriate fuse, so a fault in one >> doesn't take down the whole circuit. In practice, I think most people >> have a stock of 15a fuses that they use as replacements.... > > How does that compare to having e.g. RCD breakers and similar devices > that do not require replacing a fuse? > > Is it just a matter of the electrical wiring/installation being new > enough to feature these, or are there other trade-offs? With a fuse on the cable of the appliance, the fuse can be precisely calibrated to the actual load. But you also need an RCD to protect the wiring. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 13:09 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <1096j8k$1vrte$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #72994 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >With a fuse on the cable of the appliance, the fuse can be precisely >calibrated to the actual load. This is in fact a shortcoming of continental European installations, where you can connect euro socket devices with 0,75 mm² cables to a 16A circuit. We trust that our wiring is sane enough that such a cable will still allow enough Amps to flow to trip the breaker before it ignites the environment. That's why we measure the loop resistance before the installation is allowed to be used. > But you also need an RCD to protect the >wiring. An RCD protects people, not the wiring. I find it interesting that US hair dryers have the RCD in the plug. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 13:39 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <bk1jolxh64.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #73000 |
On 2025-09-02 13:09, Marc Haber wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> With a fuse on the cable of the appliance, the fuse can be precisely >> calibrated to the actual load. > > This is in fact a shortcoming of continental European installations, > where you can connect euro socket devices with 0,75 mm² cables to a > 16A circuit. We trust that our wiring is sane enough that such a cable > will still allow enough Amps to flow to trip the breaker before it > ignites the environment. That's why we measure the loop resistance > before the installation is allowed to be used. > >> But you also need an RCD to protect the >> wiring. > > An RCD protects people, not the wiring. Oh, sorry, translation issue. I meant a current limiter switch, or whatever they are called in English. > > I find it interesting that US hair dryers have the RCD in the plug. Oh. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 14:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <1096spf$h46l$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73004 |
On 02/09/2025 12:39, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-09-02 13:09, Marc Haber wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> With a fuse on the cable of the appliance, the fuse can be precisely >>> calibrated to the actual load. >> >> This is in fact a shortcoming of continental European installations, >> where you can connect euro socket devices with 0,75 mm² cables to a >> 16A circuit. We trust that our wiring is sane enough that such a cable >> will still allow enough Amps to flow to trip the breaker before it >> ignites the environment. That's why we measure the loop resistance >> before the installation is allowed to be used. >> >>> But you also need an RCD to protect the >>> wiring. >> >> An RCD protects people, not the wiring. > > Oh, sorry, translation issue. I meant a current limiter switch, or > whatever they are called in English. > RCD = residual current detector aka earth leakage trip MCB = Miniature circuit breaker aka resettable fuse. RCBO = Residual current breaker with ovcercurrent - the two above in one handy package >> >> I find it interesting that US hair dryers have the RCD in the plug. > > Oh. > > -- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered... ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned Richard Feynman
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-02 14:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <1096sjk$h46l$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72994 |
On 02/09/2025 11:17, Carlos E.R. wrote: > With a fuse on the cable of the appliance, the fuse can be precisely > calibrated to the actual load. But you also need an RCD to protect the > wiring. The fuse is to protect the wiring FROM the wall to the appliance -- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered... ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned Richard Feynman
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-09-03 00:40 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <VHWdneRmILNKWyr1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #73020 |
On 9/2/25 9:48 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 02/09/2025 11:17, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> With a fuse on the cable of the appliance, the fuse can be precisely >> calibrated to the actual load. But you also need an RCD to protect the >> wiring. > The fuse is to protect the wiring FROM the wall to the appliance A few appliances have their own fuses - breakable or "soft". But, mostly .... Have not had any socket literally overload in a VERY long time. My newer concerns have to do with degrading splices/connections - typically inside the walls or ceilings but maybe AT the socket. Oxidation/corrosion/copper-compression. They get HOT - eventually Fahrenheit 451. Breakers/fuses do not SEE this. Saw SOME news that breakers and/or add-ons CAN detect this - voltage drops. GREAT idea, but have not seen them on the market.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-06 11:33 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <109h2mk$2v7cs$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72994 |
On 2025-09-02, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-09-02 12:03, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2025-09-01, Ian wrote: >> >>> c186282 wrote: >> [...] >>>> Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! >>>> >>>> Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) >> >> I think one notorious difference that I've seen mentioned a couple times >> on the web is that water kettles will boil water more quickly. And that >> in the US stovetop kettles were more often seen because such electric >> kettles wouldn't be as fast as in ~240V. Now I've got no idea of how >> precise such assessments are. > > It is true. UK kettles are more powerful. Doubling the voltage with > the same current means double power. (Yeah; the precision I was alluding at was of stovetop kettles being more common in 110/120V land, not of the higher efficiency of 240V ones. The latter, indeed, is implicit because of the much higher voltage.) -- Nuno Silva
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-06 11:54 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <109h3tf$2vpls$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73518 |
On 06/09/2025 11:33, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-09-02, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-09-02 12:03, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2025-09-01, Ian wrote: >>> >>>> c186282 wrote: >>> [...] >>>>> Oh, 13a at 240v ... over 2700 watts. Wow ! >>>>> >>>>> Guess your clock-radio won't overload THOSE ! :-) >>> >>> I think one notorious difference that I've seen mentioned a couple times >>> on the web is that water kettles will boil water more quickly. And that >>> in the US stovetop kettles were more often seen because such electric >>> kettles wouldn't be as fast as in ~240V. Now I've got no idea of how >>> precise such assessments are. >> >> It is true. UK kettles are more powerful. Doubling the voltage with >> the same current means double power. > > (Yeah; the precision I was alluding at was of stovetop kettles being > more common in 110/120V land, not of the higher efficiency of 240V > ones. The latter, indeed, is implicit because of the much higher > voltage.) > Well yes. A 3kW kettle with just enough water to make one cup of coffee will be boiling in the time it takes to grind the beans. Stove kettles take MUCH longer. Back in the day of woodburning stoves and so on the kettle was 'always on' so that rapid cups of tea could be made. https://cpc.farnell.com/russell-hobbs/23911/adventure-polished-s-steel-kettle/dp/SB07493 is the full strength modern alternative... I am not sure how much you can pull off a US 220v circuit, but at least 2kW surely? -- “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.” Herbert Spencer
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-09-06 14:16 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <109h8nc$3snlp$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #73526 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >Well yes. A 3kW kettle with just enough water to make one cup of coffee >will be boiling in the time it takes to grind the beans. > >Stove kettles take MUCH longer. That depends. We have an induction stove that is not significantly slower than the electric water cooker we have. >I am not sure how much you can pull off a US 220v circuit, but at least >2kW surely? I think so, that is the circuit for stoves and dryers. ChatGPT says that in the US 120V sockets are on 15 or 20 A breakers, while 240 V sockets with 20 A breaker are uncommon, and that dryers are usually on 240 V 30 A with electric ranges having 50 A connections. The latter looks plausible since in Europe electric ranges are often on 3x 16A. 30A for an electric dryer sounds excessive to me. Take the leftpondian part of this information with a grain of salt, please, it's sourced in an LLM. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-06 13:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Electicity Supply |
| Message-ID | <109h92i$30ile$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #73538 |
On 06/09/2025 13:16, Marc Haber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Well yes. A 3kW kettle with just enough water to make one cup of coffee >> will be boiling in the time it takes to grind the beans. >> >> Stove kettles take MUCH longer. > > That depends. We have an induction stove that is not significantly > slower than the electric water cooker we have. > That is possible with the right kettle base How efficient it is is another matter. And how convenient also...my 'coffee/tea/ prep area' is near the sink, and 4 metres away from the stove... >> I am not sure how much you can pull off a US 220v circuit, but at least >> 2kW surely? > > I think so, that is the circuit for stoves and dryers. > That's enough for a pretty decent kettle. > ChatGPT says that in the US 120V sockets are on 15 or 20 A breakers, > while 240 V sockets with 20 A breaker are uncommon, and that dryers > are usually on 240 V 30 A with electric ranges having 50 A > connections. > That is broadly similar to the UK General purpose 'rings' have 32A breakers but each individual socket is rated at 13A only. And a cooker is normally on a 50A 'spur' > The latter looks plausible since in Europe electric ranges are often > on 3x 16A. ??? One x 50A here. > 30A for an electric dryer sounds excessive to me. > Mine runs at 2kW and takes longer thats all. > Take the leftpondian part of this information with a grain of salt, > please, it's sourced in an LLM. > > Greetings > Marc -- "Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold." ― Confucius
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