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| Started by | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-08-03 03:18 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-08-15 07:54 +0000 |
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Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-03 03:18 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:13 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 06:08 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 00:13 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 22:24 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 02:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-03 23:26 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 05:14 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:37 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-04 15:13 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 08:42 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 19:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 09:30 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-05 23:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 06:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 05:59 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-06 02:05 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-07 18:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 04:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-04 07:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 08:26 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 09:05 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 06:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 09:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 20:37 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 15:13 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 12:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-08-04 22:00 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 13:20 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-04 14:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:34 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:58 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:19 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 20:53 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 18:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 20:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:31 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:22 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:33 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:32 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:31 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:11 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 19:57 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:34 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 20:58 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:55 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 19:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 14:33 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-07 06:56 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 22:18 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-07 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 09:10 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 21:38 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 12:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 22:15 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-08 10:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:01 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 04:13 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 00:58 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 13:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-09 10:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-10 18:37 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 12:08 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-12 04:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-12 18:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 19:46 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-10 20:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 21:29 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 04:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 11:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 20:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:36 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 09:14 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:29 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 22:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 04:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 03:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:08 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 23:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-15 01:28 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-14 19:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 03:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-15 11:45 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:56 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:32 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 00:28 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 16:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-16 02:19 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-16 20:20 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 13:12 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:33 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:59 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-17 18:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 20:57 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:27 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:50 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:59 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 07:11 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:16 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:33 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:33 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:31 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 14:20 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:46 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:35 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 12:47 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:02 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 05:24 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 02:35 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 22:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 01:31 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-17 00:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:44 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 00:33 +0000
CD-DA and CD-ROM (was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 09:38 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 01:16 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 15:23 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 14:32 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-17 10:26 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:33 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:53 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:08 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 01:52 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:49 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:04 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:00 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:53 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-18 22:28 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 17:51 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 02:38 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:42 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 00:50 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 21:58 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 01:10 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-19 22:02 +1000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:34 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 01:13 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 19:10 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 03:19 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:28 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-19 17:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 18:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 09:50 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 05:15 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:24 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 20:17 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:57 -0400
POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-21 21:24 +1000
Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:32 +0100
Re: POLITICS!! (was ... Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:07 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 13:14 -0700
Re: Teslas and Toyotas Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 18:35 +0000
Re: Teslas and Toyotas rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:37 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 14:07 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 18:19 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:55 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 00:42 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 19:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-24 17:01 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-24 19:19 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:36 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 11:20 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 14:37 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 13:51 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:42 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:01 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 16:07 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:34 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 03:38 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 11:47 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:04 -0700
Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 22:19 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 15:08 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:35 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:17 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:55 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:24 -0400
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:06 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:40 +0200
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-29 12:16 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:23 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-08-30 10:37 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:57 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:18 +1000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 20:16 +1000
Capitalism and Population collapse [Re: Costs of transport] Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 13:46 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:11 +0000
Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:19 +0100
Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:45 +0100
Re: Costs of transport Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:56 +0100
Re: Costs of transport The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:23 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 08:30 -0700
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
Re: Costs of transport [Was: Pickup trucks for city boys] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 06:06 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:32 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:02 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:49 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:16 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:27 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 14:25 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:20 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:17 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 23:12 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 22:43 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:26 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 04:01 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:58 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 19:00 +0000
Herbs and banks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 21:47 +0200
Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:48 +0000
Re: Herbs and banks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 07:56 +0100
Re: Herbs and banks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:59 -0400
Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:50 +0000
Re: Herbs and banks Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 14:12 -0700
Re: Herbs and banks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:09 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 21:53 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:27 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:31 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:47 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:07 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:43 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 02:31 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-30 07:21 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:00 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 20:45 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:35 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:46 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:21 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:32 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:28 +0200
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:32 -0700
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:45 +0000
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:27 -0400
Re: Auto financing (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:52 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:02 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:29 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:28 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:34 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:10 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:43 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:04 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 10:59 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:24 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:36 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:53 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:33 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:47 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:21 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:45 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:22 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-31 12:09 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 21:57 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:30 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:44 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:55 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:05 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:57 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-30 10:05 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 20:08 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:47 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 04:18 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:18 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:09 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:42 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 22:47 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:30 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:47 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:45 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:17 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:32 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:38 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 08:53 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:29 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 23:49 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:49 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-27 06:10 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-27 12:06 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:40 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:20 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-08-27 13:18 -0500
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:42 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:49 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 21:57 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:43 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:38 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 21:28 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:35 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 22:15 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:18 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:34 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:57 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-29 08:52 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:56 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:16 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 09:58 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:08 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:26 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:27 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:21 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-08-29 14:04 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:18 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:47 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:26 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-30 10:28 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 05:15 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:02 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:14 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:10 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-08-30 18:37 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:03 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:05 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-31 09:07 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 03:41 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 18:55 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 22:54 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 16:37 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-27 20:40 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 19:47 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:45 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 03:27 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-27 13:17 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 03:31 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:26 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 00:53 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:29 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 09:24 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:30 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:27 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:13 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:06 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:01 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:09 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:51 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:08 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:16 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:13 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 15:16 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:15 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 19:04 +0100
Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:58 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:30 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:18 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:43 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:34 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:43 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:13 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:36 +0200
Re: Halogen lamps. [Was: Soldered connections.] Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-09-03 15:03 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:03 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:45 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 08:00 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:16 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-09-01 19:28 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 21:49 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:32 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:15 +0100
Storey "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:28 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 21:59 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:52 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:45 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:17 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 12:31 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:46 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:03 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:27 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:19 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:58 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 08:03 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:24 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 17:30 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-09-02 09:39 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:03 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 11:50 -0700
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:27 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:27 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:28 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:34 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 07:49 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:29 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:51 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:01 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:30 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:36 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:07 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 03:28 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:00 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 11:28 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:36 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 13:52 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 17:53 +0200
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 18:14 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:39 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 21:20 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:24 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:36 +0100
Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0200
Re: Floors [Was: Soldered connections.] Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:12 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:57 -0400
Re: Soldered connections. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:14 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:08 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:10 +1000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 19:19 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:57 +0100
Re: Soldered connections. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
Re: Soldered connections. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 19:39 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:07 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:31 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:07 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:54 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:47 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 20:49 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:28 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:26 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:10 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 01:09 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:29 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:03 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:24 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:58 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 21:46 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 01:02 +0000
Non glamorous military things "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:38 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:25 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 21:05 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:35 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-08-29 11:10 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:23 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:21 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 22:28 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-30 08:01 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 04:52 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 19:50 +0000
Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-30 21:30 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 23:01 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 07:49 +0200
Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-31 17:22 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-31 21:22 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-31 22:51 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-08-31 22:31 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-01 08:38 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:30 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:55 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:05 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:35 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:20 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:31 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:40 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:07 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:39 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:36 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:12 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:36 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:21 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:19 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:32 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:46 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:09 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:41 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 22:45 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 05:02 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:10 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:29 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:40 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:49 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 02:39 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:55 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:18 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:55 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:23 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 12:08 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 07:46 -0700
Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 19:49 +0200
Re: Beds [Was: Electricity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys)] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-04 02:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:25 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-03 15:39 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:42 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:19 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:41 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 11:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 13:24 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:32 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:49 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:33 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:25 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:49 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:47 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:04 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:23 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 06:48 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:36 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:34 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:42 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 01:52 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:27 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 06:20 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:01 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:24 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:28 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 07:43 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:10 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:26 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:40 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 08:22 +0000
House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:59 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:04 +0000
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:47 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:10 +0000
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-02 23:08 -0700
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 03:06 -0400
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:04 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:49 +0100
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:07 +0200
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 13:21 +0100
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 20:29 +0000
Re: House fauna [Was: Electricity Supply] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:39 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 23:53 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:21 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:39 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 04:46 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-04 01:48 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-01 21:24 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 02:30 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 04:47 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 05:13 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-02 21:23 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:41 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 05:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:01 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 00:01 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:13 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-01 12:10 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-01 04:05 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-09-01 09:06 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 17:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 11:03 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 12:17 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-02 13:09 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 13:39 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:51 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:48 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:40 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:33 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:54 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-06 14:16 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 13:22 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 15:01 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:47 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:08 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:33 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 00:52 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 09:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 00:30 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:11 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 06:30 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:51 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:26 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 09:44 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:52 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:27 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:55 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 02:05 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:32 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:06 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 20:10 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-06 13:28 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-06 20:41 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-06 21:39 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 23:16 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 13:49 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:25 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-09-07 16:54 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:05 -0700
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 21:34 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 16:02 -0700
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:07 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 17:58 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 19:17 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-08 23:12 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:52 -0400
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:34 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 19:23 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 16:53 -0400
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 01:35 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 22:42 -0400
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:45 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-10 20:00 +0000
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:33 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:00 +0100
Re: Electricity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:02 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 18:10 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-07 13:15 -0700
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 11:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-08 12:17 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-07 00:20 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:25 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:07 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 03:08 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 08:50 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 05:03 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:25 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 07:14 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:44 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 00:16 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-09 02:59 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-09 04:44 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-09 13:34 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:29 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 10:47 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-09 14:22 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-09 16:35 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-10 03:23 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-10 09:56 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-07 11:26 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 15:30 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-09-07 11:19 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 16:52 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-07 00:19 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 04:22 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:03 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:51 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:29 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 01:12 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-07 11:15 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 06:58 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-06 23:56 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:31 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-07 00:28 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:16 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 15:17 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 10:41 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:02 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-01 14:34 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-02 22:07 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 14:13 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-02 08:28 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 20:11 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 19:34 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-02 22:06 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:00 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 23:55 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:10 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-03 11:00 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:30 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:57 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:20 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-06 04:45 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:45 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 10:02 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 05:57 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 11:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:25 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:45 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:27 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 10:30 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-06 10:54 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 11:48 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-06 13:54 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-07 23:48 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:29 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:37 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:22 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:41 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-03 14:59 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:42 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:02 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:38 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-05 18:45 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:35 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:34 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:53 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 21:02 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 22:45 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:09 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 22:20 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 08:44 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-03 17:13 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-04 23:03 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-04 18:06 +0200
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:25 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 04:03 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:22 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 08:09 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:57 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:44 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:10 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 10:33 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 05:46 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 11:14 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 06:44 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 12:02 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-05 23:44 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 19:36 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 21:35 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 12:57 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 22:26 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-06 17:01 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-04 19:16 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-05 03:45 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-05 09:12 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:12 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-06 00:10 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-05 20:37 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-02 15:30 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-02 15:35 +0100
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-02 21:22 +0000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-03 01:08 -0400
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:03 +1000
Re: Electicity Supply (Re: Pickup trucks for city boys) Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-03 23:00 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:34 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-31 14:32 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 18:19 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-29 12:15 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 20:21 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 04:20 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 02:19 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 20:20 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-31 21:45 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-31 18:49 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-09-01 23:08 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:17 +0000
[OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-27 10:20 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:08 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 10:26 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 06:15 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 12:24 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 08:48 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:35 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:36 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 10:05 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 19:03 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 21:33 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:22 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 17:32 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:18 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 11:02 +0100
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-28 12:54 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 23:43 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 03:58 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 01:24 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:19 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-29 04:49 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:26 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 14:51 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 16:59 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:10 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-29 08:17 +0200
Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 13:55 +0200
Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-29 14:25 +0100
Re: [OT] Electric trucks (Europe) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-29 16:30 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 19:37 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 23:04 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:29 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 09:20 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-26 04:23 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:54 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 19:40 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:35 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 12:59 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 21:53 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 14:03 -0700
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 22:14 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-27 22:46 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 20:57 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:11 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 18:35 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-28 01:16 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-28 13:38 +0200
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-28 23:19 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Tim Slattery <TimSlattery@utexas.edu> - 2025-08-28 10:06 -0400
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-29 21:02 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 23:51 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-30 23:55 +1000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-28 17:31 +0100
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-29 06:50 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:33 +0000
Re: Pickup trucks for city boys rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 04:42 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 00:51 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 12:47 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 09:49 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:45 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 19:58 +0100
Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:46 +0200
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-22 22:03 +0100
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:10 +0000
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:32 +0100
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 04:11 -0400
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-23 11:38 +0100
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-24 02:27 -0400
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:07 +0000
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 03:04 -0400
Re: Electric 2CV [Was: Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 22:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:17 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 20:54 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-22 23:21 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-23 05:01 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-24 14:38 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-24 21:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 19:04 +0000
High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:51 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 00:54 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 11:58 +0200
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-22 13:45 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-22 20:47 +0200
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:46 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-22 19:42 +0000
Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-23 01:45 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-20 17:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-19 23:30 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 01:34 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-10 06:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-08-10 11:44 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 08:59 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:22 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 23:46 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-08 20:06 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 23:02 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:40 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:58 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 04:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:06 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 13:33 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-10 19:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-11 01:04 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-10 23:12 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-17 13:50 +0200
Good Old DOS and Ancient Windows: TSR Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-21 22:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-08-11 10:32 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:34 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:12 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:29 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 10:06 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-09 14:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 02:56 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 08:07 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-07 03:55 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-07 10:59 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 20:39 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 06:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 17:58 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:53 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:27 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 19:06 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-07 10:45 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 17:47 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:03 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 18:12 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 12:43 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:43 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:40 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:53 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 20:43 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:15 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:07 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:53 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:45 +0800
[OT] Minix "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 23:55 +0800
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-08 14:23 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 10:38 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 12:48 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 21:21 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:22 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 22:17 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:26 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 22:32 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-08 15:38 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:20 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:35 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:48 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-12 09:36 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 08:18 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 14:02 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 06:46 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 08:18 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 21:19 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 14:49 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:30 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:21 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-09 23:24 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:23 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 13:36 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-10 12:42 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-10 12:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 15:53 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-10 15:12 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-10 19:12 +0200
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-11 12:05 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-11 18:28 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 20:58 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-12 01:42 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-12 19:55 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-12 10:41 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-12 18:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-12 19:59 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-12 16:47 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 02:36 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 09:50 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-13 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-13 14:38 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 10:52 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-13 03:04 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 06:16 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-13 05:22 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 11:39 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-13 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-14 01:00 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:19 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-13 20:02 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:47 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 00:57 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:06 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 19:34 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-14 19:49 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:16 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-14 13:04 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-15 02:19 -0400
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-15 13:56 -0700
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-16 09:35 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-16 14:05 +0000
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 15:37 +0100
Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 06:52 +0000
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-16 02:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <107oprl$1f6pb$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71233 |
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:28:11 +1000, Daniel70 wrote: > On 15/08/2025 10:32 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >> Well no., It's just a DAC that's all. Run by a bit banger. More >> hifi, but not complicated, Just precise. > > DAC == hifi ..... I don't think so!! ;-P Watch out for “oversampling”. At one point it somehow became a selling point on its own. All it really was, was a discovery that, in the design of a DAC, it was easier (i.e. cheaper) to handle a higher sample rate than it was to provide more sampling levels. But if you averaged out a suitable number of samples at the higher rate, you could produce all the necessary in-between levels at the lower, target rate. Taking this to its ultimate conclusion, you have “bitstream” DACs, which only have two output levels: 0% and 100%. But with a sample rate of 44100 × 65536 × «additional_factor» Hz, an averaging output low-pass analog filter produces the full range of CD-quality audio.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> |
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| Date | 2025-08-16 20:20 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <107pm1g$1l5v2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71314 |
On 16/08/2025 12:19 pm, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:28:11 +1000, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 15/08/2025 10:32 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>> Well no., It's just a DAC that's all. Run by a bit banger. More >>> hifi, but not complicated, Just precise. >> >> DAC == hifi ..... I don't think so!! ;-P > > Watch out for “oversampling”. At one point it somehow became a selling > point on its own. All it really was, was a discovery that, in the > design of a DAC, it was easier (i.e. cheaper) to handle a higher > sample rate than it was to provide more sampling levels. But if you > averaged out a suitable number of samples at the higher rate, you > could produce all the necessary in-between levels at the lower, target > rate. > > Taking this to its ultimate conclusion, you have “bitstream” DACs, > which only have two output levels: 0% and 100%. But with a sample rate > of 44100 × 65536 × «additional_factor» Hz, an averaging output > low-pass analog filter produces the full range of CD-quality audio. > "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital representation of an Analogue waveform which, in theory, has an infinite number of samples per second. But, then, after some time, our hearing suffers so listening to a CD is "Good Enough"!! -- Daniel70
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-16 13:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107psk2$1k377$42@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71370 |
On 16/08/2025 11:20, Daniel70 wrote: > On 16/08/2025 12:19 pm, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:28:11 +1000, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 15/08/2025 10:32 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>> Well no., It's just a DAC that's all. Run by a bit banger. More >>>> hifi, but not complicated, Just precise. >>> >>> DAC == hifi ..... I don't think so!! ;-P >> >> Watch out for “oversampling”. At one point it somehow became a selling >> point on its own. All it really was, was a discovery that, in the >> design of a DAC, it was easier (i.e. cheaper) to handle a higher >> sample rate than it was to provide more sampling levels. But if you >> averaged out a suitable number of samples at the higher rate, you >> could produce all the necessary in-between levels at the lower, target >> rate. >> >> Taking this to its ultimate conclusion, you have “bitstream” DACs, >> which only have two output levels: 0% and 100%. But with a sample rate >> of 44100 × 65536 × «additional_factor» Hz, an averaging output >> low-pass analog filter produces the full range of CD-quality audio. >> > "CD-quality audio", sure, but it is still a digital representation of an > Analogue waveform which, in theory, has an infinite number of samples > per second. > No. It doesn't. Not even in theory. Air molecules are discrete things. As are electrons. And no one can hear 22kHz. > But, then, after some time, our hearing suffers so listening to a CD is > "Good Enough"!! CD was was and is way better than any analogue, then and now. Vinyl was the biggest heap of crap until the cassette tape came along. I know. I put meters on them all. -- "It was a lot more fun being 20 in the 70's that it is being 70 in the 20's" Joew Walsh
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-17 01:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <107rbgr$20k71$21@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71390 |
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:12:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > And no one can hear 22kHz. Some rare people can. > Vinyl was the biggest heap of crap until the cassette tape came along. > > I know. I put meters on them all. And the cassette tape kept on improving, along with the rest of magnetic- tape technology: new kinds of oxide and even plain-metal depositions, new bonding formulations, new noise-reduction techniques, right into the 1990s as I recall. It was amazing how much “hi-fi” could be packed into a tape that was less than 4mm wide. Meanwhile, vinyl remained stuck in the 1970s.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-17 00:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_4KdnR2eA6hZ_Dz1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71437 |
On 8/16/25 9:33 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:12:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> And no one can hear 22kHz. > > Some rare people can. > >> Vinyl was the biggest heap of crap until the cassette tape came along. >> >> I know. I put meters on them all. > > And the cassette tape kept on improving, along with the rest of magnetic- > tape technology: new kinds of oxide and even plain-metal depositions, new > bonding formulations, new noise-reduction techniques, right into the 1990s > as I recall. It was amazing how much “hi-fi” could be packed into a tape > that was less than 4mm wide. > > Meanwhile, vinyl remained stuck in the 1970s. Cassettes weren't all THAT bad towards the end of their reign. The noise problem was mostly gone and signal levels even for high freqs were improved. Vinyl ... it's kind of SUPPOSED to be "stuck in the 70s". IF you got a good pressing by a good source it could be pretty spectacular. The best examples were mostly limited pressings of 'classical' music, not Led Zep for the masses. At higher speeds, reel-2-reel can also be VERY good. I kind of hoped for music DVDs ... just music ... at higher bit resolution. Some promises, but all-electronic pushed ahead. Oh well, if you were smokin' Columbian in the back of a funky van you REALLY didn't care about the tech specs :-)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-17 10:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107s8n9$279li$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71454 |
On 17/08/2025 05:59, c186282 wrote: > Cassettes weren't all THAT bad towards the end > of their reign. The noise problem was mostly > gone and signal levels even for high freqs > were improved. > Thet were *always* dreadful - at least 10dB noisier than vinyl, usually 20dB. And without using exactly the same cassette every time Dolby simply didnt work > Vinyl ... it's kind of SUPPOSED to be "stuck > in the 70s". IF you got a good pressing by a > good source it could be pretty spectacular. > The best examples were mostly limited pressings > of 'classical' music, not Led Zep for the masses. > Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop And rumble flutter and wow. > At higher speeds, reel-2-reel can also be VERY good. > Yes. Built to precision standards that's HOW vinyl got to 70dB - 50 ips BIG inche wide tapes. But its all now digital, because you can get 120dB or more. Simply betind thehuman abilitry to hear the nois > I kind of hoped for music DVDs ... just music ... at > higher bit resolution. Some promises, but all-electronic > pushed ahead. > CDs are perfectly good enough. AQaye better tbhan anything 'analogue' > Oh well, if you were smokin' Columbian in the back of > a funky van you REALLY didn't care about the tech specs I am nots so sure., dope boosted hearing can be very good. But pissed up - even a low bitrate MP3 is better than vinyl -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-17 18:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <3YooQ.94863$fST5.58118@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #71487 |
On 2025-08-17, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > But its all now digital, because you can get 120dB or more. Simply > betind thehuman abilitry to hear the nois That makes it the perfect medium to store music which has been compressed down to a 12dB dynamic range. :-p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-17 20:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107tc6n$2ibcl$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71505 |
On 17/08/2025 19:12, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-08-17, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> But its all now digital, because you can get 120dB or more. Simply >> betind thehuman abilitry to hear the nois > > That makes it the perfect medium to store music which has been > compressed down to a 12dB dynamic range. :-p > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war > Lol! Well not all music is like that. -- “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-18 00:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <107ts17$2mptj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71487 |
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 10:51:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > [Cassettes] were *always* dreadful - at least 10dB noisier than > vinyl, usually 20dB. Was that ignoring the scratches and dust? I saw a headline for an article once about choosing the best speakers for listening to vinyl: presumably they were ones that filtered out the sound of scratches and dust ...
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-18 01:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <JrWdndsu27rcIj_1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71487 |
On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 17/08/2025 05:59, c186282 wrote: >> Cassettes weren't all THAT bad towards the end >> of their reign. The noise problem was mostly >> gone and signal levels even for high freqs >> were improved. >> > Thet were *always* dreadful - at least 10dB noisier than vinyl, usually > 20dB. And without using exactly the same cassette every time Dolby > simply didnt work > >> Vinyl ... it's kind of SUPPOSED to be "stuck >> in the 70s". IF you got a good pressing by a >> good source it could be pretty spectacular. >> The best examples were mostly limited pressings >> of 'classical' music, not Led Zep for the masses. >> > Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop > > And rumble flutter and wow. The brain filtered that out pretty well. Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than it has to do with how the material is *perceived* >> At higher speeds, reel-2-reel can also be VERY good. >> > Yes. Built to precision standards that's HOW vinyl got to 70dB - 50 ips > BIG inche wide tapes. ALMOST bought one of those ! :-) > But its all now digital, because you can get 120dB or more. Simply > betind thehuman abilitry to hear the noise Well, 120db, but unless you get a super-good translation there's still a lot to be desired. Barely 8-plus-nada bit sound, aliasing issues, weird distortions. Best I *ever* got was a classic "REM" CD. There was a track that began with the sound of a manual typewriter. Had a next-level amp and magneplanar speakers ... it was STARTLING ... SO real-sounding ! But that was the best I ever got. >> I kind of hoped for music DVDs ... just music ... at >> higher bit resolution. Some promises, but all-electronic >> pushed ahead. >> > CDs are perfectly good enough. AQaye better tbhan anything 'analogue' I'll disagree there. GOOD pressings + valve amps = Just Spectacular. Again, remember it's not all just tech-spec, but how the ear/brain PERCEIVES. >> Oh well, if you were smokin' Columbian in the back of >> a funky van you REALLY didn't care about the tech specs > > I am not so sure., dope boosted hearing can be very good. Ummmmmmm ...... maybe that's how you remember it :-) > But pissed up - even a low bitrate MP3 is better than vinyl Nope. Maybe better than super-CRAPPY vinyl ... but not as great as GOOD vinyl/amps/speakers. One of my old bosses was an audiophile - 5+ digit equipment. Brought me to his house and demonstrated a problem with his valve monobloc amps ... after awhile the pre-amp tubes would go red hot. After thinking about it for awhile I concluded that they were TRYING to reproduce sub-sonics ... random rumble from the platter, reflections, the 0.1-15hz area. Fix - not SO difficult - a low-block filter network plus a simple resistor current-limiting resistor - just a few basic parts. Problem solved. Also raised my 'worth' considerably. In any case, with audio, you CANNOT just put a scope on it and declare what's "better". It's not nearly that simple. Biology fucks up all those 'tech' measurements. What "sounds better" is what SOUNDS BETTER.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-18 10:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107utiu$2v4ns$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71552 |
On 18/08/2025 06:50, c186282 wrote: > Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than > it has to do with how the material is *perceived* Oh dear. Not for me it wasn't. And isn't -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-18 07:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4ASdnQ9MxOPGlz71nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71570 |
On 8/18/25 5:59 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/08/2025 06:50, c186282 wrote: >> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* > > Oh dear. Not for me it wasn't. And isn't ??? Turn off the spectrum analyzer and just *listen* :-)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-18 17:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <107vlji$37517$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71573 |
On 18/08/2025 12:11, c186282 wrote: > On 8/18/25 5:59 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 18/08/2025 06:50, c186282 wrote: >>> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >>> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* >> >> Oh dear. Not for me it wasn't. And isn't > > ??? > > Turn off the spectrum analyzer and just *listen* :-) > > I did. -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> |
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| Date | 2025-08-18 22:16 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <107v5hv$31sa6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71552 |
On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote: > On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: <Snip> >> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop >> >> And rumble flutter and wow. > > The brain filtered that out pretty well. > > Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than > it has to do with how the material is *perceived* Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember listening to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by 'Kraftwerk' called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor with headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music' (sound of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. Slowly the 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER then crosses to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as the vehicle 'disappears' away back into the distance. Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! Bliss, even. (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) ) -- Daniel70
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 01:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <336dnRifBN1ekTn1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #71574 |
On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote: > On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > <Snip> > >>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop >>> >>> And rumble flutter and wow. >> >> The brain filtered that out pretty well. >> >> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* > > Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember listening to > an album (one of those big black discs) put out by 'Kraftwerk' called > 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor with headphones on and, > when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music' (sound of a vehicle) is way > off in the distance in one ear. Slowly the 'music' (vehicle noise) gets > louder and louder and LOUDER then crosses to the other ear ..... then > gets softer and softer as the vehicle 'disappears' away back into the > distance. > > Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! > Bliss, even. > > (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) ) Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define what "sounds great". We're "goo-ware" - not hardware.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 09:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1081ct7$3kivt$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71620 |
On 19/08/2025 06:33, c186282 wrote: > On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop >>>> >>>> And rumble flutter and wow. >>> >>> The brain filtered that out pretty well. >>> >>> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >>> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* >> >> Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember listening >> to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by 'Kraftwerk' >> called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor with >> headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music' (sound >> of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. Slowly the >> 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER then crosses >> to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as the vehicle >> 'disappears' away back into the distance. >> >> Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! >> Bliss, even. >> >> (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) ) > > > Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define > what "sounds great". > No, but they are a great guide to what sounds muddy, confused or edgy, when it shouldn't. > We're "goo-ware" - not hardware. -- “It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into, we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a power-directed system of thought.” Sir Roger Scruton
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 12:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <c71enlxmr9.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #71620 |
On 2025-08-19 07:33, c186282 wrote: > On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop >>>> >>>> And rumble flutter and wow. >>> >>> The brain filtered that out pretty well. >>> >>> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >>> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* >> >> Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember listening >> to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by 'Kraftwerk' >> called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor with >> headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music' (sound >> of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. Slowly the >> 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER then crosses >> to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as the vehicle >> 'disappears' away back into the distance. >> >> Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! >> Bliss, even. >> >> (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) ) > > > Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define > what "sounds great". > > We're "goo-ware" - not hardware. Surely we can define what should sound great on our measurement instruments. And once the rules are defined, that's repeatable and objective. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 12:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1081nan$3n62i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #71644 |
On 19/08/2025 11:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-08-19 07:33, c186282 wrote:
>> On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and
>>>>> pop
>>>>>
>>>>> And rumble flutter and wow.
>>>>
>>>> The brain filtered that out pretty well.
>>>>
>>>> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than
>>>> it has to do with how the material is *perceived*
>>>
>>> Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember listening
>>> to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by 'Kraftwerk'
>>> called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor with
>>> headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music'
>>> (sound of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. Slowly
>>> the 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER then
>>> crosses to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as the
>>> vehicle 'disappears' away back into the distance.
>>>
>>> Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!!
>>> Bliss, even.
>>>
>>> (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) )
>>
>>
>> Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define
>> what "sounds great".
>>
>> We're "goo-ware" - not hardware.
>
> Surely we can define what should sound great on our measurement
> instruments. And once the rules are defined, that's repeatable and
> objective.
>
>
>
I spent 15 years designing audio.
In the end I could identify issues just by listening
- If the sound is gritty or edgy, you have crossover distortion or a
failing loudspeaker.
- if the sound is muddy and you hear the music, but not the individual
instruments, you have intermodulation distortion. This is what happens
in your ears as you get older making it hard to pick out one
conversation in a noisy place. In general there isn't much of that in
modern electronics: It's likely to be a shitty loudspeaker.
- if the cymbals and triangles and hi hats smash, but don't ring, your
cloth eared sound engineer has overloaded the recording medium. Very
easy to do with old tape machines, and VU meters, not so with digital
- If your FM stereo sounds slightly weird right at the extreme treble,
you don't have enough bandwidth in the IF strip. Most FM is in fact like
this. I built a really good wideband FM receiver, but it suffered from
co channel interference in continental Europe..
-if your bass is boxy, the loudspeaker is trying to sound like it has
bass when it doesn't.
- if the sound sounds like cardboard, that's because it is. You are
hearing the loudspeaker cone, not the music.
In short real hifi is that you can hear every instrument clearly and
separately, and especially every single voice in a choral work. Top end
loudspeakers designed for classical are designed like that. Very flat
frequency response, very low resonances in the cabinet and loudspeakers
and very low intermodulation distortions, You hear te instruments, not
the music and absolutely not the loudspeaker
Loudspeakers for country jazz rock and pop concentrate more on
delivering a good bass, and since there aren't many instruments, tend to
generate a 'sound' which will depend on the compromises they made. Cheap
loudspeakers you hear the loudspeakers, not the music, and absolutely
not the instruments.
It two loudspeakers 'sound different', at least one of them is shit. At
the top end yiou cant tell them apart really.
As far as amplifiers go, I stopped designing them when it became clear
that there were in all cases indistinguishable and way more than good
enough. Around the mid 1980s transistor technology was so advanced that
you could really design essentially 'perfect' amplifiers.
Vinyl disc amps were what they were, and we pushed the limits of low
noise transistors till they were in the end quieter than the hiss on the
records. FM radio in the end we were limited by the conflicting
requirements of adjacent channel reception and high bandwidth with
smooth phase response to get HF stereo to an acceptable quality.
AM radio was as good as it could be made, which was never, in Europe, Hi fi.
Digital sound pushed the available quality up massively. In particular
digital mastering made a huge difference to recorded quality- even the
best 1" tape at 30IPS is nowhere near a 12 bit, let alone 16 bit
recording at 44 or 48Khz sampling rate.
The maximum dynamic range between the needle jumping out of the groove
and chattering, and the hiss on the electronics and the vinyl itself was
about 75dB on a vinyl record
CD will do 96dB, and with clever processing sound even better. up to 120dB.
CDs had one flaw initially - crossover distortion, due to the design of
the DACS, And sometimes a bit of weirdness in the high treble due to the
need to filter out the sampling frequency with cheap filters.Today
that's all gone. They too, are essentially perfect.
Unfortunately the quality of music is rubbish today. Crudely constructed
pop songs featuring nubile singers in skimpy clothing, done on a
shoestring and compressed down to be listened to on an earbud via a
massively compressed MP3 stream is nothing whatever to do with hi
fidelity audio.
The final message is, trust your ears, not the advertising, listen to
choral music as the absolute best test, and forget about vinyl, pre amps
and power amps, gold plated cables and spend all the money you have on
the very best loudspeakers you can afford.
The test instruments confirm what you can hear, but no one has access to
test instruments and what they put in magazines is just the most basic shit.
--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
- Bertrand Russell
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-19 14:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sp6enlxeiu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #71647 |
On 2025-08-19 13:31, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/08/2025 11:45, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-08-19 07:33, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>> <Snip> >>>> >>>>>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle >>>>>> and pop >>>>>> >>>>>> And rumble flutter and wow. >>>>> >>>>> The brain filtered that out pretty well. >>>>> >>>>> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >>>>> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* >>>> >>>> Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember >>>> listening to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by >>>> 'Kraftwerk' called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor >>>> with headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the >>>> 'music' (sound of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. >>>> Slowly the 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER >>>> then crosses to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as >>>> the vehicle 'disappears' away back into the distance. >>>> >>>> Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! >>>> Bliss, even. >>>> >>>> (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) ) >>> >>> >>> Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define >>> what "sounds great". >>> >>> We're "goo-ware" - not hardware. >> >> Surely we can define what should sound great on our measurement >> instruments. And once the rules are defined, that's repeatable and >> objective. >> >> >> > I spent 15 years designing audio. > > In the end I could identify issues just by listening > > - If the sound is gritty or edgy, you have crossover distortion or a > failing loudspeaker. > - if the sound is muddy and you hear the music, but not the individual > instruments, you have intermodulation distortion. This is what happens > in your ears as you get older making it hard to pick out one > conversation in a noisy place. In general there isn't much of that in > modern electronics: It's likely to be a shitty loudspeaker. > - if the cymbals and triangles and hi hats smash, but don't ring, your > cloth eared sound engineer has overloaded the recording medium. Very > easy to do with old tape machines, and VU meters, not so with digital > - If your FM stereo sounds slightly weird right at the extreme treble, > you don't have enough bandwidth in the IF strip. Most FM is in fact like > this. I built a really good wideband FM receiver, but it suffered from > co channel interference in continental Europe.. > -if your bass is boxy, the loudspeaker is trying to sound like it has > bass when it doesn't. > - if the sound sounds like cardboard, that's because it is. You are > hearing the loudspeaker cone, not the music. > > In short real hifi is that you can hear every instrument clearly and > separately, and especially every single voice in a choral work. Top end > loudspeakers designed for classical are designed like that. Very flat > frequency response, very low resonances in the cabinet and loudspeakers > and very low intermodulation distortions, You hear te instruments, not > the music and absolutely not the loudspeaker > > Loudspeakers for country jazz rock and pop concentrate more on > delivering a good bass, and since there aren't many instruments, tend to > generate a 'sound' which will depend on the compromises they made. Cheap > loudspeakers you hear the loudspeakers, not the music, and absolutely > not the instruments. > It two loudspeakers 'sound different', at least one of them is shit. At > the top end yiou cant tell them apart really. > > As far as amplifiers go, I stopped designing them when it became clear > that there were in all cases indistinguishable and way more than good > enough. Around the mid 1980s transistor technology was so advanced that > you could really design essentially 'perfect' amplifiers. > > Vinyl disc amps were what they were, and we pushed the limits of low > noise transistors till they were in the end quieter than the hiss on the > records. FM radio in the end we were limited by the conflicting > requirements of adjacent channel reception and high bandwidth with > smooth phase response to get HF stereo to an acceptable quality. > > AM radio was as good as it could be made, which was never, in Europe, Hi > fi. > > Digital sound pushed the available quality up massively. In particular > digital mastering made a huge difference to recorded quality- even the > best 1" tape at 30IPS is nowhere near a 12 bit, let alone 16 bit > recording at 44 or 48Khz sampling rate. > > The maximum dynamic range between the needle jumping out of the groove > and chattering, and the hiss on the electronics and the vinyl itself was > about 75dB on a vinyl record > > CD will do 96dB, and with clever processing sound even better. up to 120dB. > > CDs had one flaw initially - crossover distortion, due to the design of > the DACS, And sometimes a bit of weirdness in the high treble due to the > need to filter out the sampling frequency with cheap filters.Today > that's all gone. They too, are essentially perfect. > > Unfortunately the quality of music is rubbish today. Crudely constructed > pop songs featuring nubile singers in skimpy clothing, done on a > shoestring and compressed down to be listened to on an earbud via a > massively compressed MP3 stream is nothing whatever to do with hi > fidelity audio. > > The final message is, trust your ears, not the advertising, listen to > choral music as the absolute best test, and forget about vinyl, pre amps > and power amps, gold plated cables and spend all the money you have on > the very best loudspeakers you can afford. > > The test instruments confirm what you can hear, but no one has access to > test instruments and what they put in magazines is just the most basic > shit. Thanks for the summary :-) -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-08-20 01:16 -0400 |
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| In reply to | #71647 |
On 8/19/25 7:31 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/08/2025 11:45, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-08-19 07:33, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>> <Snip> >>>> >>>>>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle >>>>>> and pop >>>>>> >>>>>> And rumble flutter and wow. >>>>> >>>>> The brain filtered that out pretty well. >>>>> >>>>> Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than >>>>> it has to do with how the material is *perceived* >>>> >>>> Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember >>>> listening to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by >>>> 'Kraftwerk' called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor >>>> with headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music' >>>> (sound of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. Slowly >>>> the 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER then >>>> crosses to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as the >>>> vehicle 'disappears' away back into the distance. >>>> >>>> Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! >>>> Bliss, even. >>>> >>>> (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) ) >>> >>> >>> Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define >>> what "sounds great". >>> >>> We're "goo-ware" - not hardware. >> >> Surely we can define what should sound great on our measurement >> instruments. And once the rules are defined, that's repeatable and >> objective. >> >> >> > I spent 15 years designing audio. > > In the end I could identify issues just by listening That's kind of the point in this discussion - "by listening". What "sounds best' to goo-ware things like us is NOT easily resolved by mere instrumentation/figures/stats. Hey, old Led Zep ... cheapo WalMart gear makes it sound "best" :-)
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