Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date	2025-08-19 12:45 +0200
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On 2025-08-19 07:33, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/18/25 8:16 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 18/08/2025 3:50 pm, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 8/17/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> Climbing up towards 70dB S/N. But still subject to snap crackle and pop
>>>>
>>>> And rumble flutter and wow.
>>>
>>>    The brain filtered that out pretty well.
>>>
>>>    Hi-Fi has less to do with technical accuracy than
>>>    it has to do with how the material is *perceived*
>>
>> Correct. And speaking about "perceived" .... I can remember listening 
>> to an album (one of those big black discs) put out by 'Kraftwerk' 
>> called 'Autobahn'. I was lying on the Lounge-room floor with 
>> headphones on and, when the 'Autobahn' tune starts, the 'music' (sound 
>> of a vehicle) is way off in the distance in one ear. Slowly the 
>> 'music' (vehicle noise) gets louder and louder and LOUDER then crosses 
>> to the other ear ..... then gets softer and softer as the vehicle 
>> 'disappears' away back into the distance.
>>
>> Just about sent me 'Cross-eyed' ever time I listened to it!! NICE!! 
>> Bliss, even.
>>
>> (Thanks for the memories!! ;-) )
> 
> 
>    Spectral readings and tech specs do NOT define
>    what "sounds great".
> 
>    We're "goo-ware" - not hardware.

Surely we can define what should sound great on our measurement 
instruments. And once the rules are defined, that's repeatable and 
objective.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 13:32 +0100
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