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| Started by | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-01-14 21:54 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-01-24 21:36 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 200 — 26 participants |
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“7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-14 21:54 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-14 17:07 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 08:38 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-15 12:25 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-15 21:10 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-16 13:47 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-15 07:15 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-15 18:47 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-16 11:04 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-16 13:48 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-16 18:37 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 22:37 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-17 10:04 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-17 14:28 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-17 15:06 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-17 22:59 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-18 11:13 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-18 12:47 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-18 21:09 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-18 21:15 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-18 23:12 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-18 19:52 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 00:43 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-19 09:54 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-19 11:15 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-19 14:21 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 20:51 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-19 22:48 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-19 08:33 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 20:52 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-19 13:00 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 20:45 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 10:46 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 12:03 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 14:34 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:40 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 16:14 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 20:51 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 11:19 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:50 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 14:37 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 20:55 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-20 08:41 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-20 19:01 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 20:59 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-20 12:58 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-19 13:10 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-17 10:02 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-16 18:23 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-16 07:43 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 14:51 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-16 18:13 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-14 23:58 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-15 03:14 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-15 00:27 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-15 18:58 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-15 21:04 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 13:39 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-16 21:07 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 22:28 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-16 21:33 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-17 10:39 +1000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-17 10:53 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-19 12:15 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-19 14:24 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-19 15:50 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-19 08:38 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 10:48 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 20:41 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 10:50 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-15 10:39 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-16 07:53 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-16 10:57 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-16 20:58 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-17 10:25 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-17 11:19 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-16 13:47 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-17 10:37 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-17 10:00 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-18 07:03 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-18 01:03 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 11:46 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 12:09 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-15 14:13 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 13:48 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-15 11:22 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-15 21:05 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 22:35 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-17 12:03 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-15 18:58 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 08:39 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-16 11:06 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-15 07:09 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-15 18:50 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-01-15 06:19 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-15 03:00 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 13:44 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-15 21:14 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 23:47 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 08:35 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 13:48 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 14:57 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-16 22:31 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-17 10:52 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-17 03:49 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-17 03:26 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-17 09:57 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-01-17 14:12 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-17 14:25 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-17 13:11 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-17 18:20 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-19 11:45 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-19 14:27 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to st op using - and what to use instead” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-20 05:04 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to st op using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 00:35 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 00:32 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 04:16 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 08:58 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 09:58 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2026-01-21 11:56 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 12:14 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 12:06 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 11:28 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-22 07:14 +1000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-21 22:04 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-21 13:27 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-21 22:50 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 10:43 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 13:17 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 21:43 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 22:40 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 12:33 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 14:10 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 23:01 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 22:50 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-01-22 09:56 +0200
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 10:51 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 09:56 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-22 09:35 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 12:35 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 11:39 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 08:02 -0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 18:43 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 13:25 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-22 17:47 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 10:06 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-22 11:02 +0100
Re: Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-01-23 03:33 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 14:14 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 16:50 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-23 20:55 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 22:39 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-01-23 21:18 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 22:45 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 23:33 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2026-01-23 18:51 -0500
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-24 08:49 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-24 14:33 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-24 11:11 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-24 14:15 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-25 09:44 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-25 10:25 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-25 07:02 -0500
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-25 12:39 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-01-28 23:44 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-29 08:49 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-25 15:12 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-26 10:46 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-26 13:13 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-27 09:02 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-27 10:10 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-27 12:44 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-27 10:21 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-27 12:44 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-26 11:56 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-24 14:30 +0100
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-23 21:39 -0800
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-24 14:36 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 04:17 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 09:03 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 12:19 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-19 13:42 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 00:42 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 20:38 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-20 10:52 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-01-20 13:30 +0200
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-20 20:20 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 00:55 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-16 16:23 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-01-15 10:41 +0100
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-15 11:43 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-18 21:48 +0000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-20 07:11 +1000
Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-01-19 23:35 -0500
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-01-19 20:32 +0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-19 20:54 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 18:38 +0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-23 20:56 +0000
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 20:05 +0800
Re: “7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-24 21:36 +0000
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 11:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10kvmm7$3qqke$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81540 |
On 23/01/2026 11:35, Marc Haber wrote: > Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> every system I have been willing to use in the last 20 years has >> made "/"(root) and "/home" in separate partitions. Foolish >> innovaters as in Canonical have allowed "/home" to be mounted only >> in "/"(root) which is to my ideas of Linux is practically >> disgusting > > I disagree with nearly everything you have written up there, > including the formatting. I don't think it is worth to have further > discussion about that here. > I take that as a 'no. I was wrong' then. -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 08:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <20260123080249.00005e31@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #81503 |
On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 09:35:50 -0800 Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: > Foolish innovaters as in Canonical have allowed "/home" to be mounted > only in "/"(root) which is to my ideas of Linux is practically > disgusting. I'm curious about this, as all I can find on a brief Web search is discussions of whether and how to set up a separate /home partition on Ubuntu, rather than anything about it being disallowed. (How would you even *do* that, anyway?) I mean, Ubuntu would not be on my list of preferred distros in any case (I can do without built-in spyware, thankyouverymuch,) but I'm not seeing much to back up this specific claim.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wwvjyx8cgpt.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #81553 |
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes: > Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> Foolish innovaters as in Canonical have allowed "/home" to be mounted >> only in "/"(root) which is to my ideas of Linux is practically >> disgusting. > > I'm curious about this, as all I can find on a brief Web search is > discussions of whether and how to set up a separate /home partition on > Ubuntu, rather than anything about it being disallowed. (How would you > even *do* that, anyway?) I don’t know what Bobby is referring to, but the AppArmor configuration in Debian needs to know where home directories are, so if you have a home directory in an unusual location then some applications won’t work properly. So it could be something like that. In the specific case of AppArmor there’s a configuration file where you can easily add additional locations. Other mandatory access control systems may have similar properties but I know even less about them than AppArmor. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-22 13:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tih94mxjik.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81449 |
On 2026-01-21 23:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 22:04:58 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can >> not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. > > Most Linux distros put the root home directory as /root, not in /home. That was a typo. Mind fudge. I suppose it was: If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can not login as user, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. I don't remember what I intended to say exactly. But certainly, /root is its own directory (not mount) in the primary "/" partition. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-01-22 17:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87343xsig0.fsf@eder.anydns.info> |
| In reply to | #81486 |
On Do 22 Jan 2026 at 13:25, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-01-21 23:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 22:04:58 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can >>> not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. >> Most Linux distros put the root home directory as /root, not in >> /home. > > That was a typo. Mind fudge. > > I suppose it was: > > If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can > not login as user, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. You certainly can log in as root, since root's home is not on /home but on the root file system. 'Andreas -- ceterum censeo redmondinem esse delendam
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-22 10:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10kssrf$2t8jm$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81438 |
On 21/01/2026 21:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-01-21 09:58, Pancho wrote:
>> On 1/21/26 04:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 21/01/2026 00:32, Pancho wrote:
>>>> My concern was about having a root account.
>>>>
>>>> AIUI, modern security advice is to not have an interactive root
>>>> account, i.e. with a password. So being a good boy, I don't. Whether
>>>> this strategy is practical in the real world is unclear to me.
>>>
>>> I always enable one.
>>>
>>> Sometimes when there is an emergency you need not to have to type
>>> 'sudo' to edit every file...
>>
>> sudo bash
>
> If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can
> not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue.
>
>
I thought root could log in OK - homedir is /root IIRC.
Is in my setup anyway.
--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."
- Leo Tolstoy
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| From | Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-01-22 11:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87cy32rmmc.fsf@eder.anydns.info> |
| In reply to | #81438 |
On Mi 21 Jan 2026 at 22:04, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-01-21 09:58, Pancho wrote: >> On 1/21/26 04:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 21/01/2026 00:32, Pancho wrote: >>>> My concern was about having a root account. >>>> >>>> AIUI, modern security advice is to not have an interactive root >>>> account, i.e. with a password. So being a good boy, I don't. >>>> Whether this strategy is practical in the real world is unclear to >>>> me. >>> >>> I always enable one. >>> >>> Sometimes when there is an emergency you need not to have to type >>> 'sudo' to edit every file... >> sudo bash > > If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can > not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. Root's home directory is usually not under /home but on the root device as /root. So as long as you can boot, you can log in as root. 'Andreas -- ceterum censeo redmondinem esse delendam
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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 03:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eli$2601222230@qaz.wtf> |
| In reply to | #81438 |
In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can > not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. Really? Not my experience at all. Instead I login and get dumped in / instead of $HOME Elijah ------ HOMEless does not mean unwelcome in Unix
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 14:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <fr8c4mx9hf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81528 |
On 2026-01-23 04:33, Eli the Bearded wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can >> not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. > > Really? Not my experience at all. Instead I login and get dumped in / > instead of $HOME Please remember that the above paragraph was a typing error or mind fart and was corrected later. If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can not login as any user, to correct the issue. At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in graphical mode). > > Elijah > ------ > HOMEless does not mean unwelcome in Unix -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 16:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10l08si$1v3b$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81547 |
On 23/01/2026 13:14, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-01-23 04:33, Eli the Bearded wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can >>> not login as root, nor as anybody, to correct the issue. >> >> Really? Not my experience at all. Instead I login and get dumped in / >> instead of $HOME > > Please remember that the above paragraph was a typing error or mind fart > and was corrected later. > > If the emergency includes that /home can not be mounted, then you can > not login as any user, to correct the issue. > > At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in > graphical mode). > Ah. But not in console. in that sort of case you need to invoke the [root] console to find out why /home is not mounted... >> >> Elijah >> ------ >> HOMEless does not mean unwelcome in Unix > > -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 20:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10l0n7p$899k$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81547 |
On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 14:14:55 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in > graphical mode). So use a text console. Weren’t you trying to claim at one point that text console logins wouldn’t work, while GUI ones would?
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 22:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nc6d4mx4ok.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81562 |
On 2026-01-23 21:55, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 14:14:55 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in >> graphical mode). > > So use a text console. I am not sure if it works for a plain user. I seem to remember there was an error message. > > Weren’t you trying to claim at one point that text console logins wouldn’t > work, while GUI ones would? It can happen. It is a different failure reason. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 21:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <eli$2601231618@qaz.wtf> |
| In reply to | #81547 |
In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in > graphical mode). Graphical mode. That could be your problem. But that's fixable with a a little care for your X11 config. With no xsession or xinit files, it should spin up a single xterm, maybe with twm. Wayland probably hasn't got a fallback. Elijah ------ not sure what mgr would do
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 22:45 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <sn6d4mx4ok.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81565 |
On 2026-01-23 22:18, Eli the Bearded wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in >> graphical mode). > > Graphical mode. That could be your problem. But that's fixable with a > a little care for your X11 config. With no xsession or xinit files, it > should spin up a single xterm, maybe with twm. Wayland probably hasn't > got a fallback. If you can not login, you can not fix anything. I don't remember the details, it was years ago. The point is that I want every possibility available, in case something goes wrong. I want to be able to login as root graphically, just in case. I just tried in a fresh install of 16.0, and I can login as root into XFCE. Yellow background. Perfect. Not even a warning message. Not that I will use it, but I like that the decision is mine to take. > > Elijah > ------ > not sure what mgr would do -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 23:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <10l10gd$bhda$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81572 |
On 2026-01-23, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-01-23 22:18, Eli the Bearded wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> At least in openSUSE. No /home, no login, it silently fails (at least in >>> graphical mode). >> >> Graphical mode. That could be your problem. But that's fixable with a >> a little care for your X11 config. With no xsession or xinit files, it >> should spin up a single xterm, maybe with twm. Wayland probably hasn't >> got a fallback. > > If you can not login, you can not fix anything. What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc, so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not? Perhaps unless this is going through PAM and there is some module doing something more than logging in? (Would such systems still have a single-user mode/runlevel available?) > I don't remember the details, it was years ago. The point is that I > want every possibility available, in case something goes wrong. I want > to be able to login as root graphically, just in case. > > I just tried in a fresh install of 16.0, and I can login as root into > XFCE. Yellow background. Perfect. Not even a warning message. Not that > I will use it, but I like that the decision is mine to take. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-23 18:51 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <mtifs7Fual8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #81577 |
On 2026-01-23 6:33 p.m., Nuno Silva wrote: > > What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc, > so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not? It depends on the setting of DEFAULT_HOME in /etc/login.defs. If it is set to "no" the login attempt will fail in the absence of their home directory. If set to "yes", the login attempt will succeed and the user will land in / instead of $HOME. So the behaviour can be controlled by the system administrator.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-24 08:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <10l213d$le95$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81578 |
On 2026-01-23, John-Paul Stewart wrote: > On 2026-01-23 6:33 p.m., Nuno Silva wrote: >> >> What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc, >> so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not? > It depends on the setting of DEFAULT_HOME in /etc/login.defs. If it is > set to "no" the login attempt will fail in the absence of their home > directory. If set to "yes", the login attempt will succeed and the user > will land in / instead of $HOME. > > So the behaviour can be controlled by the system administrator. Ah, that explains it, thanks. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-24 14:33 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <baue4mxg8k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #81578 |
On 2026-01-24 00:51, John-Paul Stewart wrote: > On 2026-01-23 6:33 p.m., Nuno Silva wrote: >> >> What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc, >> so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not? > It depends on the setting of DEFAULT_HOME in /etc/login.defs. If it is > set to "no" the login attempt will fail in the absence of their home > directory. If set to "yes", the login attempt will succeed and the user > will land in / instead of $HOME. > > So the behaviour can be controlled by the system administrator. # Should login be allowed if we can't cd to the home directory? # Default is no. # DEFAULT_HOME yes -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-24 11:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <10l29d9$o3kj$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81577 |
On 23/01/2026 23:33, Nuno Silva wrote: > What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc, > so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not? Many configurations are stored in /home/username The answer is to have a skelatal /home populated before you mount the real home volume over it -- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered... ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned Richard Feynman
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-24 14:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "7 deprecated Linux commands you need to stop using - and what to use instead" |
| Message-ID | <wwvy0ln5c79.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #81588 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: > On 23/01/2026 23:33, Nuno Silva wrote: >> What's still puzzling me here is that passwd and shadow are under /etc, >> so... login should work regardless of /home being mounted or not? > > Many configurations are stored in /home/username > > The answer is to have a skelatal /home populated before you mount the > real home volume over it Or apply the KISS principle and have /home on the root partition. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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