Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy
Date	2024-10-31 09:16 +0000
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On 31/10/2024 00:06, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:33:25 +0100, D wrote:
> 
>> But as we've done in the past, we learn the lessons, start again. End of
>> civilization? Hardly. A bump in the road, definitely.
> 
> I haven't read Tainter but I have visited most the the Chaco culture sites
> in the US SW. Chaco Canyon is particularly impressive, in the size of the
> primary site and the network of roads to the outliers. The roads are
> enigmatic. There is no evidence the Ansazi used the wheel although there
> are children's pull toys that show they understood the concept.
> 
I wasn't aware of this culture. Amazing and thanks for pointing it out, 
irrespective of the context of this thread.
> The culture is gone. The same can be said for the Mound Builders in the
> eastern US. You might say civilization was alive and well in contemporary
> Europe, but it was vanishing in the Americas about a millennium ago.
> 
Yes. The usual explanation is climate change.

Horses are a sort of 4x4 I supposes.  So it was emissions from horses 
asses what done it, presumably.

> He was a one trick pony but Miller's 'A Canticle for Leibowitz' os the
> more likely account of the future.

I read it amongst several thousand others, but have forgotten the 
plot...googles frantically. Ah yes. akin to the dark ages preservation 
of Classical knowledge in monasteries.

I was thinking of that period. Rome's rule over NW Europe became 
unsustainable as the communications lines of both products and political 
decisions simply got too long.  The NW European states were simply 
uneconomic to maintain, same as the USA was to Britain. Although it 
didn't descend *quite* as far into barbarism...

It took 500 years to begin to re-emerge and 1000 to escape the legacy of 
the Graeco Roman culture and start its own - the Renaissance.

And that lasted about 500 years and now the new Dark Ages are upon us, 
ruled by superstition,  fear and local war lords.

-- 
  “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, 
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, 
“We did this ourselves.”

― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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  Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-22 21:04 +0000
    Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 22:28 +0000
      Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-23 00:27 +0000
        Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 00:52 +0000
        Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-23 10:07 +0200
          Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-23 15:40 +0000
            Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:20 +0000
        Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-23 11:34 +0100
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                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-24 11:58 +0100
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                Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 01:36 +0000
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      Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-23 00:27 +0000
    Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-23 10:02 +0200
      Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-23 15:40 +0000
        Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-23 21:40 +0200
          Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:02 +0000
            Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-25 10:59 +0200
              Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-25 10:29 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-25 22:11 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-26 12:18 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 18:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-26 22:06 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-27 02:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-27 16:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-27 17:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-28 02:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-29 01:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 03:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-29 04:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-29 15:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-29 15:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 18:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-29 20:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-29 20:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 00:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 08:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 20:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2024-10-30 07:20 -0300
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 22:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 00:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-30 14:14 +0000
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                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 00:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-30 20:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 08:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 12:44 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 13:32 +0000
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                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-30 14:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 15:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 18:37 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 18:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 21:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-10-30 15:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 15:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:15 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 18:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:44 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:05 +0000
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                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 01:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:29 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 01:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:41 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-05 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 01:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 00:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 03:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 01:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 19:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-07 09:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 21:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-07 22:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 20:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-07 17:57 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 01:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 02:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 06:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of Economics D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 11:02 +0100
                Re: The joy of Economics The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 18:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-29 20:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-29 21:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 00:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 10:59 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 11:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 18:33 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 18:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 21:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 16:24 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 01:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 02:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Civilization Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of Civilization Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 20:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 10:20 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 20:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 03:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-31 00:25 -0400
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 10:25 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-31 18:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 18:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 21:21 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 00:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 10:40 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-01 10:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 22:29 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-01 16:14 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 05:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of Warfare Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 06:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of Warfare rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 08:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Warfare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:07 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-03 19:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-04 06:57 -0500
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-01 07:04 +1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-31 21:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-01 09:00 +1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-31 22:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 02:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 04:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Aotearoa Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 04:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of Aotearoa rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-11-01 17:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-01 19:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 01:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:07 +0100
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 22:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 00:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 18:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-03 11:25 -1000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 23:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:12 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 23:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 00:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 01:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 01:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Engine-Cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 03:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-01 13:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-01 16:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-02 07:54 -0400
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-02 17:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 10:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 18:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 20:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 22:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 01:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:40 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 18:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 23:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-03 10:55 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 11:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 23:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 01:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 19:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-05 20:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 01:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 02:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:01 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:24 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:44 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 18:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:05 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:47 +0100
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 00:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Zeppelins Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 00:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-03 19:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 19:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 01:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 02:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 06:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of Technology rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 02:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:58 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 00:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 00:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Music Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 01:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of Technology Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 19:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 01:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-01 10:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-01 22:30 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 11:44 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:03 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 00:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-03 19:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-04 06:54 -0500
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:16 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:18 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 09:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 12:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:45 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-03 20:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:21 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2024-11-04 14:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 18:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-07 09:51 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:16 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-02 19:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-02 22:08 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 00:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-03 08:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 11:13 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 20:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:38 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 04:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-07 09:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-07 18:17 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 02:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 06:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 21:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-03 00:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 01:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 11:36 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 21:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 14:42 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-30 08:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-30 12:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-31 00:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-31 10:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-31 09:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-31 12:42 -1000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-01 00:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 01:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-11-01 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 20:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 22:01 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:54 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-29 19:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:51 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-05 20:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:27 +0100
                Re: The joy of Population Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-05 20:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of Population scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-11-05 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 11:37 +0100
                Re: The joy of Population The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 11:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 01:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 21:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-06 00:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 04:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of Population The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of Population Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-05 20:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 18:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-25 22:12 +0200
                Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-26 12:22 +0200
        Re: The joy of Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:25 +0100
          Re: The joy of Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-24 10:09 +0200

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