Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy
Date	2024-11-08 01:30 +0000
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:27:25 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.misc D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> Last, but not least, what is work?  I'm sure that if you measure
>> _effective_ work, you'll find the difference between a medieval peasant
>> and a modern american far smaller, when coffee breaks, smoking breaks,
>> vacations, are deducted.
> 
> There is also a huge difference between 8hrs on a computer shuffling
> electronic paper back and forth vs. 8hrs tending a farm's fields and
> animals because those very fields and animals are all that stand between
> you and starvation come the middle of Februrary when snow and ice
> abound, but little plant life grows.
> 
> Even modern jobs that are considered "manual labor" by today's standards
> in the US are quite different vs.  the mideval peasant who's very
> survival into next summer depends upon being able to squeeze, and
> preserve, enough food to survive through the long cold winter.
> 
> Now, if you mean "time spent actually doing work", well the pessant
> likely spent more time actually doing "work".

Possibly but you have to take into account the agrarian cycle. There are 
bursts of activity like plowing and planting when the peasant works from 
can see to can't see. When the seeds are in the ground there isn't much to 
do.

Historically that's why summertime was favored for war. Freezing to death 
outside of Stalingrad or getting bogged down in the springtime mud is a 
new twist. A good war is scheduled between the time the crops are planted 
and when they are ready for harvest.

Harvest is another one of those work yourself ragged events. You need to 
get the crops in, processed, and stored before bad weather.

After harvest you cross your fingers you have enough food for yourself and 
the animals as well as firewood, and plan for a few months of downtime to 
repair tack and other equipment, tell stories, and so forth.

Hunters and gatherers also had their cycles. A herring or salmon run isn't 
like the grocery store being open 24/7/365, nor are there always berries 
in the produce section, or fresh meat. 

One indicator for me among the Native Americans is the decorative arts. 
Prior to the whites and their beads similar work was done by dyeing and 
folding porcupine quills. Other decorations might involve harvesting 
mussel shells, drilling them, and grinding them down into bangles. Even 
decorative designs on pottery is above the utilitarian needs of people 
living hand to mouth.

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Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-03 12:49 -0700
  Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-03 21:52 +0100
    Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 00:09 +0000
      Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 10:15 +0100
        Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:32 +0000
          Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:48 +0100
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:47 +0000
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:36 +0100
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:25 +0000
        Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-04 17:47 +0000
        Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-04 18:22 +0000
          Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 18:33 +0000
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:44 +0100
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 02:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 01:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:29 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 01:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Atheism Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:11 +0000
          Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 21:41 +0100
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 01:18 +0000
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 10:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-05 17:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:46 +0000
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 21:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 01:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 00:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 20:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 22:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 23:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 03:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 01:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 04:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-08 15:35 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 18:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-08 21:54 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 05:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 06:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:10 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 21:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-11-10 12:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy William <maus@deb.org> - 2024-11-10 15:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 19:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:21 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-11 01:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-10 12:26 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 23:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 10:17 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 21:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 02:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 10:50 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-12 18:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 10:54 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-14 11:50 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-15 08:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-11-10 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-11-11 19:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 19:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:20 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-11 11:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 19:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-11 20:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 21:41 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 10:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 10:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 18:39 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-13 06:52 +1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-12 21:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-13 08:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-13 09:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-13 12:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-14 08:02 +1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-13 23:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-13 23:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-14 11:50 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-13 13:32 -1000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-14 00:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-13 10:13 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 05:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 06:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 06:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:11 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 20:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 20:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 01:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 09:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy William <maus@deb.org> - 2024-11-10 15:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 19:02 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:24 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 23:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 10:15 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 18:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:25 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 23:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 10:14 +0100
                Re: The joy of LibreOffice Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-10 23:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:06 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-08 15:34 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 18:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-08 21:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 01:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 13:06 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 05:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 06:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:08 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 20:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 22:00 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 01:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-10 09:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 19:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:23 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-12 04:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Herbivores Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-12 23:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of Herbivores Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-13 05:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of Herbivores Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-13 22:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-11-10 23:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 19:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 11:18 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 18:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-10 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 22:17 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 10:22 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-11 15:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 20:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-11-12 10:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-11 11:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-11 07:35 -0500
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy maus <maus@deb.org> - 2024-11-11 20:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-11 15:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-11 15:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-11 17:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-11 22:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 02:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 10:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 15:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 21:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 21:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 13:11 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 20:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 21:58 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 21:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 02:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-10 11:20 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-11-10 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 05:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 06:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 05:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 06:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:09 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 13:09 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 20:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-10 14:08 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-10 23:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 10:25 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 20:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-11 21:43 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-12 02:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 05:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 10:53 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 10:48 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 09:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-12 18:38 +0100
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-08 16:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 06:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 19:57 +0000
      Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:31 +0000
    Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:29 +0000
      Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-04 15:46 +0100
        Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-06 18:31 -0700
          Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-07 09:55 +0100
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:43 +0000
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 21:27 +0000
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-07 22:48 +0100
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 01:30 +0000
          Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:36 +0000
          Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:40 +0000
            Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 20:03 +0000
              Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-07 17:57 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 01:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 02:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-08 16:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-11-10 01:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-10 10:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-11-11 13:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-11 14:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-11 11:19 -0500
      Re: The joy of Economics Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 21:53 +0000
        Re: The joy of Economics rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-05 03:32 +0000
          Re: The joy of Economics Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-05 06:25 +0000
          Re: The joy of Economics D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-05 11:02 +0100
          Re: The joy of Economics The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 14:51 +0000

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