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Re: C/C++ timeline (was Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need)

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Subject Re: C/C++ timeline (was Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need)
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2026 21:26:55 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-02-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Feb 2026 15:36:18 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>
>>> It’s not like Java has a monopoly on being arbitrary and weird!
>>> 
>>>   int fputs(const char *s, FILE *stream);
>>>   int fprintf(FILE *stream, const char *format, ...);
>>> 
>>> Whether the stream argument is first or last depends which function
>>> you’re using.
>>
>> After all these years I use 'man fputs' more than I should. Then you
>> throw in the similar functions that take an int file descriptor rather
>> than a FILE*.
>>
>> I'd still rather deal with that arbitrariness than C++'s streams.
> 
> I deal with those by remembering that fputs() can have any number of
> arguments, so we might as well get the file pointer out there first. On
> the other hand, putc() only has one argument, so fputc() adds the file
> pointer at the end.  Then I just have to remember how the arguments go
> with fgets() - and I've replaced it with getline(), which is quite
> similar.  I always read strings and parse them myself, so that about
> covers I/O for me.

man fputs

SYNOPSIS
       #include <stdio.h>

       int fputc(int c, FILE *stream);
       int putc(int c, FILE *stream);
       int putchar(int c);

       int fputs(const char *restrict s, FILE *restrict stream);
       int puts(const char *s);

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