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Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need)

From John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need)
Date 2026-02-09 10:04 -0800
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2026 16:31:24 -0500
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> This prompted me to try ferroelectric memory, which is much much
> faster. Built a dozen field-project boards using that. Could save a
> bunch of relevant vars and values into that mem more often without
> slowing down the rest of the app.

Been meaning to poke around with that for ages. Obviously the intended
application is as an alternative to flash memory for persistent storage
of firmware and/or settings, but it's interesting to consider a small
homebrew system where it's used as main memory, directly analogous to
core - free and indefinite-ish "suspend" with no battery drain!

(Volatility of main memory is such a baked-in assumption to every form
of computing post-mini era...of course mobile devices have had suspend/
resume for ages, but our OSes are still designed around the assumption
that the computer starts with a blank slate and every process starts by
getting loaded from disk. It'd be interesting to seriously re-examine
that way of thinking...)

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Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-18 23:10 -0500
  Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-19 11:00 +0000
    Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-19 17:33 -0500
      Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 12:05 +0000
        Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-20 19:01 +0000
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 20:42 +0000
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 18:22 -0500
        Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 18:05 -0500
    Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-01-20 05:04 +0200
      Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-20 03:11 +0000
        Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-19 23:21 -0500
        Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-01-20 14:25 +0100
        Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2026-01-20 14:30 +0000
      Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-19 22:59 -0500
      Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 08:42 +0000
        Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-01-20 12:17 +0200
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 17:13 +0000
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-01-20 17:40 +0000
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-20 19:01 +0000
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-20 10:18 -0800
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-20 20:16 +0000
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-01-21 07:55 +0200
              Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 08:25 +0000
              Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-21 22:47 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 08:42 -0800
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-20 21:33 +0000
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 18:27 -0500
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 18:02 -0500
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-21 06:50 +0000
              Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-21 22:49 -0500
          Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-02-02 14:50 +0000
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-02 15:07 +0000
              Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-02 21:19 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-02 21:03 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-03 08:52 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-03 12:57 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-03 13:53 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 11:51 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-04 22:09 -0500
            Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-02 20:50 -0500
              Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-03 02:58 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-02 22:23 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-03 19:57 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 11:52 +0000
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                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-03 00:18 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-02-04 04:18 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-03 23:45 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-02-04 05:14 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-04 00:51 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 08:24 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 11:56 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 14:50 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 16:44 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 09:15 -0800
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-02-04 19:26 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 22:00 +0000
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                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-04 23:02 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 21:58 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-04 22:34 -0500
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 19:58 +0000
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                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-04 22:03 +0000
                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-04 23:49 -0500
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                Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-04 21:42 -0500
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                Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-07 12:15 +0000
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                Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-07 12:10 +0000
                Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-05 19:27 +0000
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                Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-07 12:29 +0000
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                Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-08 10:25 +0000
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                Re: Memory Safety (Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-12 12:52 +0000
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