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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: C/C++ timeline (was Re: Python: A Little Trick For Every Need) |
| Date | 2026-02-14 07:16 -0500 |
| Organization | None |
| Message-ID | <10mpp3m$34735$7@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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rbowman wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 11:30:12 -0800, John Ames wrote:
>
>> True enough, and it is to some degree a question of taste - but Java
>> does, to my mind, strike a particular balance of vices that remind me of
>> the main thrust of Kernighan's criticism of Pascal: not only does it
>> suffer from misfeatures and frustrations, but it provides no real way to
>> work around them from within itself.
>
> I had hopes for Java in the late '90s. 'Java in a Nutshell', 2nd edition
> iirc, was fairly concise. You'd need a damn big nut for the 7th edition. I
> was working with the AVR processors so my 'hello world' project was a
> simple emulator. Not happening in Java.
>
> AWT wasn't bad but then they introduced Swing. The mantra at the time if
> you were upset at the glacial performance was to get a newer, faster
> machine, Right.
>
> I did like Visual J++, but its relationship to Sun Java was loose, leading
> to Sun shutting it down. It took a while but Microsoft eventually came up
> with C#, which is what Java (and Visual C++) should have been.
>
> We had one Java application that suffered from extensive mission creep
> over the years. I seldom worked on the code and always did with my fingers
> crossed.
Our project manager had trouble getting C++ coders, so they
decided to add Java to the mix. They hired a whizbang Java guy.
For some reason he had a complex about "linkers". We added a
couple more Java guys. Once things got going, the whizbang Java
guy got an inheritance and quit (iirc).
Then we lost the contract to a lower bid. From what I heard, the
new group didn't like our way and went some other way.
I never got into Java, but got into Maven and used it to build
both the Java and C++ code under control of Hudson (or was it
Jenkins?)
com.company.myapp.myfrigginclass
Now that I'm retired I forgot all that shit.
I can't imagine how the .mil contractor world is these days, it
was chaotic enough back then. I'm afraid to ask.
--
Where's th' DAFFY DUCK EXHIBIT??
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