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Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags...

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags...
Date 2025-12-16 21:36 +0100
Message-ID <tes81mxnfj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (19 earlier) <10hjedl$3tvsd$2@dont-email.me> <mq5u54F85feU2@mid.individual.net> <kAqdnZj4GIkc36P0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <7bn21mxq2e.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <ZB6cnXswSuzmPKL0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>

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On 2025-12-15 06:49, c186282 wrote:
> On 12/14/25 07:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-14 05:52, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 12/13/25 14:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 21:16:22 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 13/12/2025 5:42 am, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 21:11:22 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I brought one of those "Answer machine and Two handset" systems
>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>> so now, if I get a call, I can let the Answer machine pick up the 
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> and then, if it's a Real call, I can pick up the phone whilst 'they
>>>>>>> are leaving a message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If its a Robotcall, it/they usually hang up whilst my "I'm not here,
>>>>>>> leave a message" message is rattling off!Job done!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That works for me. It was humorous when I got a new machine and 
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> bother recording a message, leaving the generic female greeting that
>>>>>> came with it. The first time my ex called and got the machine "You've
>>>>>> got a live in?" she asked.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, have we got the same "generic female greeting"??
>>>>
>>>> Probably. Its not quite robotic and probably is a clip spoken by a real
>>>> human but is very bland.
>>>
>>>    My ATT unit has a fake male voice. That's PROBABLY
>>>    better because it implies there's a big strong man
>>>    living there instead of a 5'2" woman.
>>>
>>>    Have a spare one. Landline will probably be obsoleted
>>>    before I ever need it.
>>>
>>>    No caller-ID on the unit, but my phone does that.
>>>
>>>    Alas it can NOT detect spoofing. Pretty much nothing
>>>    commercial will. CID spoofing is mostly done by sending
>>>    the little data packet a tad EARLY, before the carrier
>>>    normally would. Yer device accepts the fake, and then
>>>    ignores the subsequent carrier update. This WOULD be
>>>    easy to detect ... except nobody bothers. Wonder why ?
>>>
>>
>> Not sure, but my guess is the hack was invented later.
> 
>    I'd build a spoof-detector, but phone lines are
>    nefariously difficult to link to (legally). You
>    need a special transformer, rather narrow resistance
>    and capacitance specs. Any Pi, even a Pico, could
>    do the deed IF it wouldn't trash yer line.

That's ancient technology...

My "phone line" is made of glass, it does not conduct electricity. Ie, 
it is fibre glass, and the phone is actually a VoIP contraption. The 
router has a client for it, and outputs a local socket that is an 
emulation of the copper line, do that we do not need to replace our 
phones and we are unaware of the change.

So the meaning of CID spoofing changes totally.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:35 +0000
  Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 14:07 -0800
    Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 21:11 +1100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-12-12 10:33 +0000
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:58 +0100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:54 +0100
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:14 +1100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 20:40 +0100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 18:42 +0000
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:16 +1100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 19:46 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:52 -0500
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:17 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 22:02 -0500
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:32 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:49 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-15 05:18 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:36 +0100

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