Re: Zip list

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Zip list
Date	2023-02-22 18:54 +0100
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On 2023-02-22 06:58, 25B.E866 wrote:
> On 2/19/23 6:42 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-02-19 12:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2023 16:39, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-02-18 14:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2023 11:43, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-02-18 11:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/02/2023 19:32, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>>> I was becoming so tired of the proliferation of file archiving
>>>>>>>> formats (ARC, ZOO, ARJ, etc.) that I was relieved to see the
>>>>>>>> world finally settle on ZIP as a standard archiving format.
>>>>>>>> (Uh-oh, here comes 7Zip...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And this is all separate from the Unix world, which had
>>>>>>>> tar, cpio, gzip...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RAR was my pet hate...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why? :-?  :-o
>>>>>>
>>>>> Could never find an unpacking program that ran on Unix.
>>>>
>>>> :-O
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> unrar.
>>>>
>>>> Unix, or Linux?
>>>>
>>> Unix.
>>> I cant remember when Linux first appeared on the desktops - I believe 
>>> that Mr Kettlewell was among the first in our company to espouse it, 
>>> but it was preceded by a lot of SCO Unix and SUNoS .
>>
>> I suppose that unrar can be compiled in Unix, the source is available.
>>
>>
>> unrar for unix is mentioned here, for instance:
>>
>> <https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/open-rar-file-or-extract-rar-files-under-linux-or-unix/>
>>
>> +++··················
>> If you are using FreeBSD Unix, use the pkg command:
>> # pkg install unrar
>>
>> If you are using OpenBSD Unix, use the pkg_add command:
>> # pkg_add -v unrar
>>
>> If you are using macOS Unix and Homebrew, use the brew command. First, 
>> install Homebrew on macOS and then type the following brew command:
>> $ brew install unrar
>> ··················++-
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Curiously the advent of wide area networking and ultimately the 
>>> Internet propelled both the RAR format and Linux into popularity. It 
>>> is hard to see how co-operative development of Linux would have taken 
>>> place without the Internet and the ability to download and upload 
>>> files globally, and the need for RAR was IIRC driven by the first 
>>> 'torrents' of pirated software...
>>>
>>> Anyway, for a long time it remained a DOS/WIN only program.
>>
>> Certainly Linux development came with Internet. That is known history.
>>
>> RAR was very popular in the DOS world, but it started in 1993, so the 
>> same era as Linux.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_(file_format)
>>
>> «RAR is a proprietary archive file format that supports data 
>> compression, error correction and file spanning.[3] It was developed 
>> in 1993 by Russian software engineer Eugene Roshal and the software is 
>> licensed by win.rar GmbH.[3] The name RAR stands for Roshal Archive.»
>>
>>
>> RAR had good features before internet. It could easily create archives 
>> spanning several floppies, it had forward error recovery... It had 
>> some sort of support for script running with decompress, useful for 
>> installation of programs.
> 
> 
>    Well, even plain old zip could make floppy-spanning
>    archives WAY back.
> 
>    THESE days I'd rec 7zip. Does pretty much anything
>    you'd ever need and it's snappier than RAR or zip
>    and compresses a bit better.

Except, AFAIK, forward error recovery.

> 
>    Alas a legacy of the past is that there were maybe
>    50 unique compression/archive schemes - some totally
>    proprietary like "Squeeze!". Finding unzippers for
>    all those schemes is a hopeless task - so, hate to
>    say it, some of that old data just has to be let go.

Can be.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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