Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Zip list Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:54:37 +0100 Lines: 106 Message-ID: References: <0LqcnRugEt7aNnL-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ean/rHb4ita5oebe+A/iOgEVUCoAiEsYoRRmzmjkExmm2x/j30 Cancel-Lock: sha1:W+RbGR5vv7fie+GjLkYHKmDp7oY= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:37229 On 2023-02-22 06:58, 25B.E866 wrote: > On 2/19/23 6:42 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2023-02-19 12:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 18/02/2023 16:39, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2023-02-18 14:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 18/02/2023 11:43, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-02-18 11:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> On 17/02/2023 19:32, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>>>>> I was becoming so tired of the proliferation of file archiving >>>>>>>> formats (ARC, ZOO, ARJ, etc.) that I was relieved to see the >>>>>>>> world finally settle on ZIP as a standard archiving format. >>>>>>>> (Uh-oh, here comes 7Zip...) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And this is all separate from the Unix world, which had >>>>>>>> tar, cpio, gzip... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RAR was my pet hate... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? :-?  :-o >>>>>> >>>>> Could never find an unpacking program that ran on Unix. >>>> >>>> :-O >>>> >>>> >>>> unrar. >>>> >>>> Unix, or Linux? >>>> >>> Unix. >>> I cant remember when Linux first appeared on the desktops - I believe >>> that Mr Kettlewell was among the first in our company to espouse it, >>> but it was preceded by a lot of SCO Unix and SUNoS . >> >> I suppose that unrar can be compiled in Unix, the source is available. >> >> >> unrar for unix is mentioned here, for instance: >> >> >> >> +++·················· >> If you are using FreeBSD Unix, use the pkg command: >> # pkg install unrar >> >> If you are using OpenBSD Unix, use the pkg_add command: >> # pkg_add -v unrar >> >> If you are using macOS Unix and Homebrew, use the brew command. First, >> install Homebrew on macOS and then type the following brew command: >> $ brew install unrar >> ··················++- >> >> >>> >>> Curiously the advent of wide area networking and ultimately the >>> Internet propelled both the RAR format and Linux into popularity. It >>> is hard to see how co-operative development of Linux would have taken >>> place without the Internet and the ability to download and upload >>> files globally, and the need for RAR was IIRC driven by the first >>> 'torrents' of pirated software... >>> >>> Anyway, for a long time it remained a DOS/WIN only program. >> >> Certainly Linux development came with Internet. That is known history. >> >> RAR was very popular in the DOS world, but it started in 1993, so the >> same era as Linux. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_(file_format) >> >> «RAR is a proprietary archive file format that supports data >> compression, error correction and file spanning.[3] It was developed >> in 1993 by Russian software engineer Eugene Roshal and the software is >> licensed by win.rar GmbH.[3] The name RAR stands for Roshal Archive.» >> >> >> RAR had good features before internet. It could easily create archives >> spanning several floppies, it had forward error recovery... It had >> some sort of support for script running with decompress, useful for >> installation of programs. > > >   Well, even plain old zip could make floppy-spanning >   archives WAY back. > >   THESE days I'd rec 7zip. Does pretty much anything >   you'd ever need and it's snappier than RAR or zip >   and compresses a bit better. Except, AFAIK, forward error recovery. > >   Alas a legacy of the past is that there were maybe >   50 unique compression/archive schemes - some totally >   proprietary like "Squeeze!". Finding unzippers for >   all those schemes is a hopeless task - so, hate to >   say it, some of that old data just has to be let go. Can be. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R.