Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.os.linux.misc > #37087
| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Zip list |
| Date | 2023-02-17 20:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k5a4knFbtguU10@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <tsnlq3$3jpur$1@dont-email.me> <op.10ioi4tza3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net> <0LqcnRugEt7aNnL-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <k59u21FbtguU3@mid.individual.net> <vDQHL.690236$Tcw8.307288@fx10.iad> |
On 2023-02-17 20:32, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2023-02-17, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-02-17 17:28, Robert Heller wrote:
>>
>>> Zip / Unzip have a bit of a history and came from outside of the UNIX world
>>> (they originated in the MS-DOS world). I suspect that due to MS-DOS memory /
>>> disk limitations the *original* programs for Zip files had to be limited to
>>> single functions (just building the zip file, just extracting, just listing,
>>> etc.). Along with a different philosophy about how to organize software.
>>
>> Er... that's not my remembrance. I recall a single program, called
>> "pkzip". Maybe there was an older zip/unzip, but what we used before
>> pkzip was another format, arc.
>
> I recall there being two separate programs, PKZIP.EXE and PKUNZIP.EXE.
> In fact, I just dug around on my system and found them both. They're
> dated 1993-02-01.
>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKZIP>
>
> Note that the label on the floppy disk in the photo mentions
> both PKZIP and PKUNZIP.
Ah. My memory must be wrong, then.
>
> That's not to say that there wasn't a later version of PKZIP
> that could both zip and unzip, but I never saw one.
>
> I was becoming so tired of the proliferation of file archiving
> formats (ARC, ZOO, ARJ, etc.) that I was relieved to see the
> world finally settle on ZIP as a standard archiving format.
> (Uh-oh, here comes 7Zip...)
>
> And this is all separate from the Unix world, which had
> tar, cpio, gzip...
I don't know about Unix, but I found the capabilities in Linux more
limited than in Dos, around 1998.
For example, I could not write an archive spanning several floppies,
because zip could not break on an exact byte count. It had to break on
complete files.
On the other hand, "less" could handle gzipped text files transparently,
no need to decompress for reading. Very nice for log files.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
Back to comp.os.linux.misc | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar
Zip list db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2023-02-16 16:57 +0100
Re: Zip list Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-02-16 08:12 -0800
Re: Zip list "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 03:59 -0500
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 16:16 -0500
Re: Zip list "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 21:40 -0500
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-19 21:13 -0500
Re: Zip list Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-02-20 17:19 +1000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 11:38 +0100
Re: Zip list Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-02-16 16:31 +0000
Re: Zip list Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2023-02-16 16:51 +0000
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-16 19:21 -0500
Re: Zip list "Nuno Silva" <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-17 10:44 +0000
Re: Zip list "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-02-17 10:41 -0500
Re: Zip list Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2023-02-17 16:28 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-17 19:06 +0100
Re: Zip list Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-17 19:32 +0000
Re: Zip list Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-02-17 11:56 -0800
Re: Zip list "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-17 21:10 +0100
Re: Zip list "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-17 20:59 +0100
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-18 10:12 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-18 12:43 +0100
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-18 13:15 +0000
Re: Zip list Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2023-02-18 14:46 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-18 17:39 +0100
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-19 11:10 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-19 12:42 +0100
Re: Zip list "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-22 00:58 -0500
Re: Zip list "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-22 18:54 +0100
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-22 17:00 -0500
Re: Zip list not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-02-23 09:23 +1000
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-22 19:41 -0500
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-22 19:43 -0500
Re: Zip list "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-23 01:08 -0500
Re: Zip list "Andrei Z." <no-email@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-23 13:32 +0300
Re: Zip list "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-23 11:23 -0500
Re: Zip list "Andrei Z." <no-email@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-23 20:29 +0300
Re: Zip list "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-23 21:22 -0500
Re: Zip list Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-02-24 13:18 +1000
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 00:13 -0500
Re: Zip list Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-02-26 12:01 +1000
Re: Zip list "Andrei Z." <no-email@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-24 07:58 +0300
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 00:15 -0500
Re: Zip list "Andrei Z." <no-email@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-25 09:34 +0300
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 02:33 -0500
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-25 10:19 +0000
Re: Zip list Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2023-02-25 13:43 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-25 12:04 +0100
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-25 10:00 +0000
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 16:18 -0500
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-19 11:13 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-19 12:48 +0100
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 00:51 -0500
Re: Zip list Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-02-25 06:15 +0000
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 02:30 -0500
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-25 10:17 +0000
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 23:08 -0500
Re: Zip list Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2023-02-26 03:46 +0000
Re: Zip list The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-25 10:09 +0000
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-26 00:12 -0500
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-25 12:10 +0100
Re: Zip list "25A.I866" <25A.I866@noacba.net> - 2023-02-25 23:41 -0500
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-26 20:22 +0100
Re: Zip list "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-02-26 23:56 -0500
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 19:26 +0100
Re: Zip list "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-02-27 22:20 -0500
Re: Zip list Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-02-28 15:21 +0000
Re: Zip list "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-03-01 23:23 +0100
Re: Zip list "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-02 00:02 -0500
Re: Zip list Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 16:17 -0500
Re: Zip list Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2023-02-18 14:55 +0000
csiph-web