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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Short name for USB |
| Date | 2023-02-20 11:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k5h0rcFg31nU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (18 earlier) <e6f9cjx79g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <63f2a6be@news.ausics.net> <0i0bcjxks1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <pSednd0kcqIHam_-nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <63f31add@news.ausics.net> |
On 2023-02-20 08:01, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> 25B.E866 <25B.E866@noaaba.net> wrote:
>> On 2/19/23 8:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-02-19 23:46, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-02-19 00:23, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> 25B.R866 <25B.R866@noaaba.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> ??? Electrics are VASTLY simpler machines - usually you don't
>>>>>>> ??? even need a transmission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MECHANICALLY simpler. If you're driving along and your motor
>>>>>> controller lets out the smoke, you're not exactly going to be able
>>>>>> to rig up a fix on the road side. Probably not even if you're the
>>>>>> engineer who designed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same with an ICE.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the motor computer in my gasoline car breaks, I can not start or run
>>>>> the car till it is repaired or replaced.
>>>>
>>>> Yes but electric isn't making that situation any better, which is
>>>> what I read from 25B.R866's "Electrics are VASTLY simpler
>>>> machines". In fact if a current model of either breaks down it's
>>>> probably an equal headache to fix because neither technology is
>>>> remotely simple anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mechanically they are way simpler.
>>
>> That was my main point ... consider ALL the moving parts
>> in today's petrol engines. The things are VERY complicated.
>> Yea, x-percent of the parts are just replicated, but still
>> it's a LOT of parts and there are a few VITAL support
>> systems too.
>>
>> Electrics = stator+rotor and a couple bearings and you don't
>> even need a tranny. Feed the wheels directly and you can
>> skip the pumpkin(s) too.
>>
>> In BOTH kinds of motors, these days, there's a complicated
>> computerized control unit. They won't run without it. Yer
>> '54 Chevy would, but not anything made today. On the plus
>> side, such units are basically plug-ins - quick (but $$$)
>> to replace.
>
> Actually the complicated control unit made the mechanical parts
> less complicated in IC engines (no distributor, carburettor,
> etc.). The mechanical complexity went down, but the overall
> complexity went up. What I think you're trying to say is that
> _reliability_ is better with electric cars (provided they get the
> design right, I suppose), and in principle I agree with that.
Well, an EV has no gears, no clutch. No transmission turbine. No oil
pump. No water cooling (maybe the batteries need that?). No belts. No
camshaft or chain. Possibly no differential transmission, or no
transmission at all. Possibly four wheel drive with no transmission.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-16 18:44 +0000
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Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-19 12:53 +0100
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Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 02:55 +0100
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Re: Short name for USB Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-02-20 17:01 +1000
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Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-24 13:06 +0000
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-20 10:43 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 12:38 +0100
Re: Short name for USB not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-02-21 06:02 +1000
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-21 11:12 +0000
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Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-22 13:37 +0000
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-20 10:35 +0000
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-20 10:26 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 11:44 +0100
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-20 11:26 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 12:41 +0100
Re: Short name for USB "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 00:25 -0500
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-18 10:04 +0000
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Re: Short name for USB "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> - 2023-02-16 01:36 -0500
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Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-18 12:37 +0100
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Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-19 13:03 +0100
Re: Short name for USB "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 00:56 -0500
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-18 12:40 +0100
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-19 21:28 -0500
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 11:28 +0100
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-21 00:21 -0500
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-21 12:52 +0100
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-15 07:34 +0000
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-15 08:13 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 01:39 -0500
Re: Short name for USB not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-02-12 08:01 +1000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 01:50 -0500
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-18 10:11 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-18 23:08 -0500
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-19 11:53 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-19 23:11 -0500
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-20 11:31 +0100
Re: Short name for USB Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-20 18:03 +0000
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-20 19:21 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-20 23:57 -0500
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-21 00:27 -0500
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-21 11:16 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-22 01:23 -0500
Re: Short name for USB "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-19 13:04 +0100
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-19 14:11 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-19 23:18 -0500
Re: Short name for USB The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-20 10:46 +0000
Re: Short name for USB "25B.E866" <25B.E866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-20 22:15 -0500
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