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Re: The Joy of *small* business

From D <nospam@example.net>
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Subject Re: The Joy of *small* business
Date 2024-12-22 12:28 +0100
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 22/12/2024 09:31, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 02:12:43 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>>     Those poor people ... caught between an ever-growing mountain of
>>>     facts/evidence and equally-persuasive *belief* (which requires no
>>>     facts). They TRY to find ways to splice it all together. It doesn't
>>>     work well ...
>> 
>> A friend was a Young Earther despite being a proficient programmer. Given
>> the premise God can do anything it's no problem for him to whip up the
>> Grand Canyon with all its geological layers in his spare time. He was also
>> well rehearsed in the creationist arguments against evolution.
>> 
>
> The problem is, that both the scientific narrative and the creationist one 
> are complete, logical and unassailable.
>
> One posits a supernatural 'Big Bang' from which time, space energy and the 
> laws of nature miraculously sprang, and the other posits a big Creation from 
> which  time, space energy and the laws of nature miraculously sprang, just 
> already formed as a complete *fake*, like someone today constructing a '1000 
> year old' house. Complete with faked history.
>
> The only difference is the latter big bang has a sentient intelligence with a 
> Plan in charge.
>
> Really we only reject it on the slender basis of Occam - it's simply more 
> complicated than necessary to explain this shit.

I'd add to that that one is a process and open to change (which has 
happened and does happen occasionally) and the other a religion.

I have mixed feelings about Occam, since Occam tends to shut down waaaay 
too many discussions waaay too quickly. Who is to say what is, in reality 
"simpler" or less complex, if the understanding of the questions is 
lacking?

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Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:56 +0000
  Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 20:01 +0000
    Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:27 +0100
      Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 02:18 +0000
        Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 11:44 +0100
  The Joy of *small* business Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-14 21:26 +0000
    Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:31 +0100
      Re: The Joy of *small* business Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-15 14:08 +0000
        Re: The Joy of *small* business Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-15 14:15 +0000
          Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 18:05 +0100
        Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 18:02 +0100
        Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 19:47 +0000
          Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 23:10 +0100
            Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-16 00:04 -0500
              Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 10:44 +0100
              Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-16 21:18 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-16 21:14 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 04:07 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-17 10:49 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 10:28 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 21:41 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 00:05 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 07:09 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 10:01 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 19:11 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 20:15 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 23:02 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:09 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-19 11:07 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 10:08 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-19 10:59 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 22:32 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:06 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 10:01 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:43 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 22:03 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:14 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 09:59 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2024-12-19 09:45 -0700
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:06 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 09:56 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:08 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-19 16:35 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-20 03:32 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 03:56 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-20 05:05 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-20 10:42 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 11:00 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 21:56 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 05:25 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 09:50 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:49 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 09:47 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 10:00 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 23:28 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-19 00:16 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 10:17 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 10:15 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-20 03:22 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 09:18 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 11:45 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-21 01:23 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-21 09:54 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 21:45 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:40 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-22 12:06 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-21 22:04 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 05:46 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-22 02:12 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 09:31 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:53 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-22 12:28 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 15:22 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-22 22:54 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 08:46 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-23 12:59 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-23 00:13 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-23 06:09 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:15 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-23 18:20 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 21:29 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 09:10 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 02:10 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 06:26 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-23 12:55 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 09:10 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-23 12:43 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 01:57 -0500
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 21:08 -0500
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 20:54 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-22 23:42 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 09:05 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 01:24 -0500
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 21:12 +0000
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-22 23:14 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-23 12:35 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:29 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 11:38 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-20 20:30 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-21 01:40 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 08:15 +0000
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 20:17 +0000
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 10:27 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 23:32 +0000
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 21:38 +0000
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                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 23:38 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-19 11:00 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-18 20:31 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-18 21:49 -0500
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-19 10:56 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-17 10:47 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 22:31 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-18 20:28 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 23:48 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-19 10:54 +0100
                Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-19 19:22 +0000
                Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-20 10:27 +0100
  Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:07 +0100
    Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 02:24 +0000
      Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 11:46 +0100
        Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 19:43 +0000
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            Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-16 03:31 +0000
              Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-16 10:35 +0100
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                Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-17 03:14 +0000
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              Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-16 11:46 +0000
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              Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-16 14:01 +0000
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