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| Subject | Re: The Joy of *small* business |
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
| Organization | wokiesux |
| Date | 2024-12-22 23:42 -0500 |
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On 12/22/24 4:53 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/12/2024 09:31, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 02:12:43 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> Those poor people ... caught between an ever-growing mountain of
>>> facts/evidence and equally-persuasive *belief* (which requires no
>>> facts). They TRY to find ways to splice it all together. It doesn't
>>> work well ...
>>
>> A friend was a Young Earther despite being a proficient programmer. Given
>> the premise God can do anything it's no problem for him to whip up the
>> Grand Canyon with all its geological layers in his spare time. He was
>> also
>> well rehearsed in the creationist arguments against evolution.
>>
>
> The problem is, that both the scientific narrative and the creationist
> one are complete, logical and unassailable.
Yep, kinda hermetically-sealed bubbles.
Somewhere, early on, you take a step in one of
several directions and then that defines your
path forever more.
> One posits a supernatural 'Big Bang' from which time, space energy and
> the laws of nature miraculously sprang, and the other posits a big
> Creation from which time, space energy and the laws of nature
> miraculously sprang, just already formed as a complete *fake*, like
> someone today constructing a '1000 year old' house. Complete with faked
> history.
The 'big bang' - esp with 'inflation' added - IS a bit
of a stretch ...
I'll agree, because it suits me, that it's likely what
happened - but really truly PROVING it and the underlying
factors is gonna be difficult to the EXTREME.
> The only difference is the latter big bang has a sentient intelligence
> with a Plan in charge.
>
> Really we only reject it on the slender basis of Occam - it's simply
... weird .......
> more complicated than necessary to explain this shit.
Came across an little article on a sci/tech page the other
day about 'negative time'. Basically, if you send a photon
into some crystals another comes out BEFORE the original
goes IN. This had been attributed to instrumentation issues,
but now the instrumentation is much better and it DOES happen.
The first-up cause is to look at photons as quantum-statistical
entities rather than a 'thing'. However there's a slight smell
to that.
Ah ... found it :
https://phys.org/news/2024-12-scientists-negative-quantum.html
This seriously smears-out the whole 'causality' thing,
future precedes past. I wonder how far before/until
that effect might go ?
It also points to 'the real picture' being kinda being
SO complex and strange it's not really within the realm
of human IQ anymore. We might put the "AI"s on it, but
won't understand how they reach their answers.or REALLY
what it means. As such it all becomes as 'magic' to us -
full circle.
We LIKE to think we can grasp it all but ... umm ... NOPE.
However we CAN *use* the 'magic' the AIs find ... so it's
not a total loss. Just wave yer wand and repeat " ...
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Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 11:00 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-19 00:16 -0500
Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-19 10:17 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-20 03:22 -0500
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Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 11:45 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:40 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-21 22:04 -0500
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 02:10 -0500
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Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 09:10 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 01:57 -0500
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-24 21:08 -0500
Re: The Joy of *small* business D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-25 12:36 +0100
Re: The Joy of *small* business rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 20:54 +0000
Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-22 23:42 -0500
Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 09:05 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-20 11:38 +0000
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Re: The Joy of *small* business "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-21 01:40 -0500
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Re: The Joy of *small* business The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 20:17 +0000
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