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Re: climate change

From Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: climate change
Date 2025-09-30 23:09 -0400
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 10:18:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 30/09/2025 07:46, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> But Australia also has a close association with many Pacific Islands,
>> and for them there is just one important quality-of-life issue, and
>> that's sea level rise.
>
>The problem is, there is no sea level rise to speak of.
>
>Other that going on for the last 5000 years.
>
>You are just regurgitating the green myths propagated by the people with 
>the money who want us all to die of cold after we have handed all our 
>savings to them for pre processed soya and unreliable renewable energy
>


From your appended note, 
   " ... one’s agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost
a litmus test of one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

    Paul Krugman

True words. Regardless of how much cynicism to want to apply
to "conventional". 

It was about 2008 when the last couple of serious critics ended
their own reviews and concluded that the science was sound. 

Ice continues melting. If you are going to proceed with glib dismissal
of impeccable data, I will no longer take you seriously.  


>
>-- 
>“People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, 
>and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. 
>Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s 
>agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of 
>one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”
>
>Paul Krugman

-- 
Rich Ulrich 

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