Re: climate change

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject	Re: climate change
Date	2025-10-02 11:40 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
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On 01/10/2025 20:45, Rich Ulrich wrote:
> What the scientist warn is mostly valid as warnings,

In that it *could* happen possibly, in some alternate universe...

> but the science of warming and climate change is not nailed down.

It's not even tacked with flour paste.

The more you study 'the science' the more you find unwarranted 
assumptions, kludges to make it computable and downright *errors*.

And that's before you get to the outright lies and data faking of the 
likes of Michael Mann.

I used to assume that thes scientists involved knew what they were 
talking about, so I moved out of a house below sea level and bought one 
300ft ASL...that was 32 years ago.
In which time the sea level has risen at its normal rate about 4 inches.

Then I started really looking into it about 13 years ago, and the more I 
looked the more horrified I got.

To say that the evidence is thin and the projections sketchy as fuck is 
to dignify the whole dogs breakfast far more than it deserves.

But people BelieveInIt™ and in politics and marketing *that is all that 
matters*.

-- 
“It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought.”
Sir Roger Scruton

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