Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Floppies Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2025 14:29:35 +0200 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10ah9i6$3v8gp$1@dont-email.me> <10ai0bj$599f$1@dont-email.me> <5FLzQ.110783$OHH2.12315@fx14.iad> <10aoava$1jlb8$1@dont-email.me> <10aocau$1jued$1@dont-email.me> <10aodt0$1k427$1@dont-email.me> <10ap6o2$1qit3$1@dont-email.me> <1o4aqlx524.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10atvqa$2tidd$20@dont-email.me> <10au48o$2tidd$32@dont-email.me> <10auai7$31c3v$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net Mu2O/71G+i6D1FpXgXicdQTXzwz3N71Zl1Xf4Qof2Olri01szN X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:1+ILvbJFztdXWAzWRqujV9k7Iv0= sha256:3i5hcXbX9Dk37Qnqw6BiDGE/sUY8GrJE//BERbrHQNE= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <10auai7$31c3v$2@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:75351 On 2025-09-23 16:24, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-09-23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 23/09/2025 12:42, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-09-23 13:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 23/09/2025 10:09, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> We have socialists and communists running the government here, and >>>>> nothing untoward has happened. >>>> >>>> Just a power cut for the whole country. >>> >>> LOL. Not their fault, likely. Could have happened to any government >>> anywhere. >>> >> ...who mandated the use of renewable energy without understanding the >> consequences. Or holding its advocates to account. > > You do need to finally take the time to actually check what happened, > instead of just sitting on the same pile of steaming far-right bullshit. > > If we're getting into this kind of "consequences" talk, maybe: they > should hold whoever allowed private operators to account, or whoever did > not mandate strict enough procedures and/or rules to catch early or > prevent the succession of failures? > > Or - and I'm going on a limb here - we could drop the far-right bullshit > and instead talk of a proper investigation of why what ought to be > critical systems did not handle this failure in the way they were > expected to and instead caused wide disruption? > > (I said "drop the far-right bullshit", so please don't reply to this > with "because of solar power" or "because of renewables" or "because of > [non-existing] subsidies".) > > It was bad enough dealing with the failures of Iberdrola and of the > fossil fuel plants to avoid disturbing the grid, do we now have to brace > for Trump and GOP-style (if not -infused) far-right misinformation on > this invading iberian politics? > > But I guess you're not even aware - or you chose to ignore it because it > conflicts with your worldview? - that it was a failure in fossil fuel > plants that actually brought the grid down? (Besides overall failure to > act as expected from thermal and nuclear power plants, at least one > thermal plant is said to have done the opposite of that it should.) And the other day some body (institution?) blamed human fault. I could not read it, as it was behind a pay wall. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;