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Re: Cars, engines...

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From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Cars, engines...
Date Sun, 14 Dec 2025 20:29:45 +0100
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On 2025-12-13 06:13, c186282 wrote:
> On 12/12/25 06:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with
>>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I
>>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were
>>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum
>>>> servo-assist.
>>>
>>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars
>>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking 
>>> with
>>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory
>>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake
>>> instead.
>>>
>> I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are 
>> so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once.
> 
> 
>    Old MG Midget ?  :-)
> 
>    A girl next door had one ... she always drove it
>    with her shoes off so she could FEEL the pedals
>    properly.
> 
>    Road devil, you didn't want to ride with her. Or
>    behind her. Or beside her. Or same road ...   :-)
> 
>    Hmm ... an outfit I knew had a mid 50s International
>    Harvester pickup. You'd like that. Ridiculously
>    over-built, massive frame. 4-speed, shiftable
>    differential, v8, 4wd. They'd rigged it as a tow truck.
>    With the diff in low and 1st gear speed was about
>    10mph at full throttle. Once they tried to pull a
>    tractor out of a muddy ditch - it broke the tractor
>    in half ... they had photos. The pedals were NOT
>    too close to each other.

I have seen photos of such a breakage, dunno if actually the same one.

> 
>    They did eventually sell it ... couldn't get parts
>    any more alas ......
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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