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Re: LED lights

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From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject Re: LED lights
Date Sun, 2 Nov 2025 15:41:04 +0100
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On 2025-11-02 01:50, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/1/25 09:38, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-10-31 20:25, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 21:46:12 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>
>>>>     I am surprised that you tried to replace an incandescent with an
>>> LED
>>>>     for
>>>> heating purposes.  When was younger and spryer I would get on a
>>>> step-stool at this Time of Year and put up some incandescent bulbs in
>>>> the bathroom to be able to warm it up.   Feel too unstable for some 
>>>> time
>>>> now to do that as being 30 inches off the floor makes me insecure.
>>>> Broken ankle does not help with that and no room for a cane.
>>>
>>> I did not intend the LED bulb to be a space heater. A few years ago the
>>> electric coop sent out boxes of CFL bulbs and I replaced the 
>>> incandescent
>>> bulbs with those. When CFLs went out of favor they sent out boxes of LED
>>> bulb and I used those. They were 60 W equivalent but as my cataracts got
>>> worse I got 100 W equivalent bulbs that also had a small slider to 
>>> select
>>> the color temperature. It was one of those that failed.
>>
>> Ah, I have never seen those.
>>
>> Those that I have that can control the colour temperature do so with a 
>> remote IR or radio controller; not bulbs, but large fixtures, a flat 
>> rectangle.
>>
>> Maybe bulbs via WiFI? IoT?
> 
>    Doesn't that just seem like MASSIVE over-tech/thinking ?
> 
>    It's supposed to light the room decently. Pick the 5k
>    static color. No muss, no fuss, no remote-controls, cheap.

I pick the 400K variant :-)

> 
> 
>>> I didn't dissect it but I don't know how a LED could pull enough current
>>> to become very hot and not fail. Ultimately it was the switch that
>>> failed.
>>>
>>> For heat I use regular 1500 W space heaters. I expect my electric 
>>> bill to
>>> go up with those on but I wasn't using them in September. I also have a
>>> hot air gas furnace but when the blower turns on it's like a 747 taking
>>> off so I prefer electric until it gets very cold.  I don't know which is
>>> more economical. Propane isn't cheap either.
>>
>>
>> I'm preparing to move house, and the new place will have some type of 
>> AC working as a heat pump. It is the cheapest method in terms of 
>> electricity usage. Cost of the system and repairs might nullify that.
>>
>> Probably cheapest here (doesn't snow) are space heaters with butane 
>> bottles.
> 
>    But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE
>    CARBON MONOXIDE !!!

True, so open the window a bit.

Oh, no carbon monoxide with these machines. Just CO2. Otherwise they 
would not be authorized.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
              OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000

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