Re: Is this where we are going with AI?

From	oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Is this where we are going with AI?
Date	2026-05-13 00:07 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2026-05-12, none <none@none.rip> wrote:
> On 12/05/2026 8:26 PM, Jim Jackson wrote:
>> A friend of mine had a problem with
>> external speakers/mic for his laptop - he
>> does talks to groups. So he asked his new
>> friend "copilot". Guess what - co-pilot
>> suggested he needed a gizmo, helpfully
>> saying it was available from Amazon. Off
>> he goes and purchases this, and ... he's
>> still having problems. Ah says his friend
>> "copilot", "now you mention it what you need is
>> actually this gizmo for, guess where, Amazon!
>> And seemingly there are still problems, but
>> he has it working-sort-of.
>> 
>> So are big companies paying to get adverts
>> in AIs? Or is it just regurgitating the stuff
>> it's scraped from Amazon?
>> 
>> And my friend has learnt nothing new from
>> co-pilot. He has no real further understanding
>> about the problem he had. Co-pilot had not
>> educated him. But he does have some new buzz
>> words that he picked up from the conversation.
>> 
>> It could be, of course that he'd have got no
>> further by entering into a conversation with
>> humans on a bulletin board, or indeed here
>> on usenet.  I have no way of knowing.
>> 
>> I reckon to use one of these tools well, you
>> already need to be somewhat of an expert in
>> the area of discussion - so you can spot the
>> hallucinations and where it is off the mark.
> 
> Of course. Free or paid tech out there - search,
> ai, social media, app, whatever is not there
> for you. It's infrastructure for extraction. If
> it's dressed up as civic service changes nothing
> about that.
> 
> With ai we are relatively at the beginning. So
> most are free, cool, entertaining. Just to
> hook people, software and everything around.
> The real fun will start later when everyone
> will be there.
> 
> Everything out there is designed to interface
> with you in a way that maximizes their energy
> takeout—money, time, attention, labor, data.

I'm trying to remember.. doesn't ancient wisdom
weigh in on how often a sucker is born?

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Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 18:26 +0000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-12 20:49 +0200
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-05-13 00:07 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-13 02:28 +0200
        Re: Is this where we are going with AI? oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-05-13 02:58 +0000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-05-12 18:56 +0000
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:19 +0000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-12 20:10 +0100
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:17 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-12 20:32 +0100
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-12 21:52 +0200
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-13 08:12 +1000
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-13 09:48 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-05-13 12:18 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-14 08:52 +1000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2026-05-13 20:48 +0100
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-13 21:59 +0200
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 21:46 +0000
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-14 08:52 +0000

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