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Re: Is this where we are going with AI?

From Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: Is this where we are going with AI?
Date 2026-05-13 20:48 +0100
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On 12/05/2026 19:26, Jim Jackson wrote:
> A friend of mine had a problem with external speakers/mic for his laptop
> - he does talks to groups. So he asked his new friend "copilot". Guess
> what - co-pilot suggested he needed a gizmo, helpfully saying it was
> available from Amazon. Off he goes and purchases this, and ... he's
> still having problems. Ah says his friend "copilot", "now you mention it
> what you need is actually this gizmo for, guess where, Amazon!
> And seemingly there are still problems, but he has it working-sort-of.
> 
> So are big companies paying to get adverts in AIs? Or is it just
> regurgitating the stuff it's scraped from Amazon?

There are people actively posting nonsense in the hope that bad AI will 
pick it up and fall flat on its face.

Amazon product descriptions are sometimes written by sellers that often 
don't know the difference between "input" and "output".

Which was a very common problem non-technical people have has for years 
when faced with random cables and back of a Hi-Fi receiver, even though 
they clearly understand the "entry" and "exit" signs in a car park.

I sometimes find it instructive (and funny) to ask AI where it got the 
bum steer from, requesting the references it has read. Really people 
need to up their game on "prompt engineering". The unwashed sadly don't 
have real skills to ask a decent question (education), and garbage-in 
garbage-out strikes.

AI itself isn't only the only problem. Look to the misinformed 
(supposedly educated) media about it, and also biased political posturing.

There are people that are now being misled into giving up their job 
dreams, because they feel AI will eventually replace them.

Folks who could spark the next series of medical discoveries, are now 
training to be plumbers and electricians. A fantastic wealth 
opportunity, that once was the domain of software developers and testers?

AI can only mimic and respond with likely answers to tasks, based on 
probabilities it has calculated from information it has read and maybe 
patterns it has found. For that, it's a very useful tool.

However AI can't discover brand new things from first principles. And if 
we don't have humans left for this, in a few years things may come to a 
crashing halt.

There is a name to this theory. The name currently escapes me.

-- 
Adrian C

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Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 18:26 +0000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-12 20:49 +0200
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-05-13 00:07 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-13 02:28 +0200
        Re: Is this where we are going with AI? oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-05-13 02:58 +0000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-05-12 18:56 +0000
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:19 +0000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-12 20:10 +0100
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-12 19:17 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-12 20:32 +0100
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-12 21:52 +0200
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-13 08:12 +1000
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-13 09:48 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-05-13 12:18 +0000
      Re: Is this where we are going with AI? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-14 08:52 +1000
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2026-05-13 20:48 +0100
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? none <none@none.rip> - 2026-05-13 21:59 +0200
  Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 21:46 +0000
    Re: Is this where we are going with AI? Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-05-14 08:52 +0000

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