Re: computer history

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: computer history
Date	2015-07-17 13:58 -0400
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Bill Cunningham wrote:

>
> "Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message
> news:160720152250081512%timstreater@greenbee.net...
>
>> The Star came first. Then came the Lisa and the Macintosh (both from
>> Apple) in 1983/4 or so. Steve Jobs then left Apple and founded Next,
>> which had NextStep (the world's first web site was on a Next machine,
>> at CERN). Sun, DEC, and others had GUIs for their unix boxes by, I
>> dunno, about 1990.
>>
>> MS had a couple of joke versions of Windows (1 and 2) in the mid to
>> late 80s, then a slightly less jokey version (3, and eventually, IIRC
>> 3.3) in the early 90s. They didn't have anything that I would have
>> called useable in today's sense until 95 and then 98 or possibly NT
>> came out.
>>
>> I always remember my brother, a Windows fanboi, proudly showing me how
>> he could move a window from one screen to another under XP. His face
>> fell when I told him that had been possible on a Mac for 15 years.
>
>    I have *never* known Microsoft to come out with /anything/ original.
> Silverlight was copied I think from Adobe's (or I guess I should say
> Macromedia) Flashplayer. C# and .NET from Jim Gosling's Java. Nope never
> anthing original.
>
Microsoft came out with that Z80 board for the Apple II.  It came early 
enough that it was relatively "new".  I still don't get how that happened, 
it's not like Microsoft was in the hardware business at the time, yet they 
offer this board (rather than Apple) and the board is used to run CP/M, 
which belonged to Digital Research, Microsoft's nominal competitor.

   Michael

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