Re: computer history

From	mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com>
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Subject	Re: computer history
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Date	2015-07-20 20:17 +0100

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On 18/07/2015 16:05, Nyssa wrote:
> and I
> would think that serious business users would have gone
> the CP/M route instead since there were more business
> oriented software packages available for that platform
> such as Visicalc

You do know that Visicalc originally was written for the Apple II not CP/M?

People used to buy Apples just for Visicalc. Some people didn't realise 
the Apple was a home/personal computer, they thought they were Visicalc 
engines. I can remember loading Apple Invaders onto an Apple used in an 
customer's accounts dept. I'll never forget what one of the employees 
said, "Hey look! You can play space invaders on Visicalc."

As for Z80 cards... the reason to have a Z80 running CP/M in an Apple 
was to be able to run Microsoft MASM M80. That was "the" Z80/8080 
assembler of choice back in the day. The cool feature the version sold 
for the Z80 card was that it supported 6502 development as well. The 
Microsoft linker L80 has some serious short comings but with PSA's 
PLINK-80 package you had a supercharged Z80/6502 development system that 
even including the outrageous costs of an Apple II plus disks in the UK 
still worked out cheaper than buying a crufty S-100 CP/M system. Of 
course you could always play some games on the Apple when you got bored 
programming.

Some of us where there and used these systems and tools to earn a living.

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