Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Andy Burns Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: download email from gmail regularly Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:37:06 +0000 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <87o7d75t8c.fsf@yaxenu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 5sDdFvx/Hu0vLY2NAR49NAV1P1ORVJotRrftx/qo3LC8kWZCfP Cancel-Lock: sha1:h4Mhip1CkqfcZy7JhKeu9LpBBs8= sha256:44enXlw5mAbv4q242sVXExjIqmLYQ43W4ufsSQl9rqA= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <87o7d75t8c.fsf@yaxenu.org> Xref: csiph.com comp.mail.misc:1150 Julieta Shem wrote: > It seems Gmail is decomissioning username-password authentication. they more or less did that 2 years ago, asking people to use oAuth2 for those who couldn't use oAuth, they require per-device passwords, which in turn require you to enable 2-step validation, which in turn requires they know your mobile number (also you can't turn off 2-step later, as that burns the per-device passwords) > Clients will have to use "Sign in with Google". that was decidedly their direction of travel at the time > What happens to all > download-email programs? I'm looking for one, in fact. If I want to > pull my mail via POP or IMAP today, what would I have to use? in the same way stunnel can "wrap" TLS around a http or pop3 connection to make it https or pop3s, there are oAuth wrappers available, I've never used them > I'd like to read my mail with Gnus (using djb's Maildir storage). I > can't stand Gmail any longer. I'm done. any use? > (*) Other questions > > This ``Sign In with Google'' means the downloader would always have to > ask me for passwords? I could never just pull gmail without being asked > for credentials? (Very annoying.)