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Re: Threading is foobared?

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Subject Re: Threading is foobared?
Date Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:18:52 +1100
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Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> writes:

> Am I the only one who has noticed that threading of posts here is
> severely broken? It's always been the case that there have been a few
> posts here and there that break threading, but now it seems to be much
> more common.

I can't give an objective assessment of whether it has increased or to
what extent.

Thanks for pointing out an objective symptom, though: munging of the
message ID values in various fields.

The resulting broken threads are a constant source of annoyance. I don't
know whether any one host is the culprit, or whether there are many
hosts that are munging the message IDs.

What you've demonstrated is that at least one host is violating
communication standards by altering existing reference fields on
messages in transit.

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Ben Finney

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Threading is foobared? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-27 14:01 +1100
  Re: Threading is foobared? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-27 14:18 +1100
  Re: Threading is foobared? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-03-27 02:25 -0400
  Re: Threading is foobared? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2016-03-27 11:29 +0100
  Re: Threading is foobared? "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-29 12:26 +0200
    Re: Threading is foobared? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-30 10:43 +1100
      Re: Threading is foobared? "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-30 10:37 +0200
  Re: Threading is foobared? Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2016-03-29 23:54 +0000
    Re: Threading is foobared? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-03-29 23:34 -0400

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