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Re: Threading is foobared?

From Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Threading is foobared?
Date 2016-03-27 11:29 +0100
Message-ID <mailman.76.1459074560.28225.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
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On 27/03/2016 07:25, Random832 wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016, at 23:18, Ben Finney wrote:
>> What you've demonstrated is that at least one host is violating
>> communication standards by altering existing reference fields on
>> messages in transit.
>
> The usenet gateway relays posts that originated on the mailing list to
> usenet with their *Message-ID* replaced wholesale with
> "<mailman.*.python-list@python.org>" - 90% of the time when I've traced
> a broken thread this has been to blame, and I've complained at least
> twice of this before, once not two weeks ago.

And I apologise because I saw that complaint and had meant to reply. In 
short, it's not the list owners who manage the gateway but rather the 
mailman administrators for the whole of the python.org lists. I do 
remember some discussion / explanation of possible problems when the 
mailman version was upgraded a few months ago. I'll try to dig those out 
and follow up with the people involved.

FWIW I assume the issue is with the mail -> news gateway as I see no 
problems with the mailing list threading (at least using TB on Windows) 
and the archive doesn't appear to lose threading either AFAICT. Please 
feel free to point out if I'm wrong about that.

TJG

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Threading is foobared? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-27 14:01 +1100
  Re: Threading is foobared? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-27 14:18 +1100
  Re: Threading is foobared? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-03-27 02:25 -0400
  Re: Threading is foobared? Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2016-03-27 11:29 +0100
  Re: Threading is foobared? "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-29 12:26 +0200
    Re: Threading is foobared? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-30 10:43 +1100
      Re: Threading is foobared? "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-03-30 10:37 +0200
  Re: Threading is foobared? Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2016-03-29 23:54 +0000
    Re: Threading is foobared? Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-03-29 23:34 -0400

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