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Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please

Date 2012-06-27 15:11 -0700
From Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please
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On 6/27/2012 2:09 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
...
>       No, *your* overtly anti-social and self-aggrandising approach is
> not suitable.  I gave up on Java, partly because the language making
> certain things that I need awkward to do and partly because of the
> snarking.
>

I have largely given up on this newsgroup, and only drop in
occasionally, because of the tone of the discussion. In any case, this
newsgroup is dying from lack of new regulars, and I think that is a key
reason. If you get jumped on the first time you ask a question, why come
back? When I first showed up in comp.lang.java as a very experienced
programmer but new to Java, my questions were answered politely and my
mistakes were handled gently.

The failures of this newsgroup have not made me give up on Java, for
anything for which Java seems to me to be the most suitable of the
languages I know.

Of course, a language making things you need to do awkward is an
extremely good reason for using a different language. With so many
languages to choose from, there is no point fighting a language that is
not a good fit for what you are doing.

Patricia

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I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-25 15:31 -0700
  Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-25 16:15 -0700
    Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-25 16:47 -0700
      Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-25 18:10 -0700
        Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 13:04 -0700
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-26 14:01 -0700
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-06-26 17:21 -0400
            Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 14:44 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 14:56 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-06-27 18:13 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 18:48 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-27 15:21 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Jail Bush Cronies <do.not@ask.me> - 2012-06-27 18:46 -0400
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-26 14:25 -0700
            Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 14:32 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-26 17:49 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 15:20 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 17:30 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 18:09 -0700
        Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-02 11:21 +0200
      Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-25 18:36 -0700
        Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 13:24 -0700
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 13:49 -0700
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-26 14:04 -0700
            Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 14:34 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-26 16:26 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 16:47 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-26 20:04 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-26 22:18 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-06-26 22:59 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-27 21:30 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Wanja Gayk <brixomatic@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-02 11:32 +0200
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-02 09:47 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-26 20:06 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 11:42 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-27 14:09 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-27 15:11 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-27 21:59 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Devil's Advocate <legal@hell.org> - 2012-06-27 22:17 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-27 21:40 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-27 19:12 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-06-27 20:47 -0500
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-27 19:12 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-27 21:28 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-27 19:14 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Hydrangea <hydrangea393@foo.mail.quuzzle.edu> - 2012-06-27 22:28 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-27 21:05 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-27 22:32 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-27 21:08 -0700
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-26 14:10 -0700
            Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 14:35 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-26 17:51 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 15:20 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-26 19:35 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 16:44 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-26 22:06 -0400
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-27 08:15 -0700
        Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 18:36 -0700
          Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-27 18:54 -0700
            Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please B1ll G4tes <wm.gat3s@micro5oft.quux> - 2012-06-27 22:23 -0400
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 09:55 -0700
            Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 04:02 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Mike Winter <mlwinter@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 04:55 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-28 07:33 -0700
                [OT] Message IDs (Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please) Mike Winter <mlwinter@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 08:45 -0700
                Re: [OT] Message IDs (Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please) markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-28 09:39 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-28 09:44 -0700
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2012-06-28 12:51 -0400
                Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-28 09:58 -0700
              Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-28 07:32 -0700
  Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-26 03:49 -0700
    Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-26 13:59 -0700
  Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-06-29 08:12 -0700
    Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-29 10:02 -0700
    Re: I need a different approach - suggestions please bilsch <bilsch01@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 13:07 -0700

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