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Re: "Hello world!" without a public class?

From "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
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Subject Re: "Hello world!" without a public class?
Date 2013-01-06 13:44 +0000
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Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

> Even though I detest IDE's for actual professional use when I learned
> Java (to save money I decided to do it through the local community
> college since I already had a CS background) they used BlueJ and one
> feature it had really helped in this regard... the feature being that you
> where allowed in instantiate any class from the IDE directly and needed
> no wrapping classes/main/etc. this was of great benefit to the students
> who where in their first programming class, I did some tutoring of the
> newer students, (it did hinder them slightly when they transferred to Sr.
> colleges but I think the trade off was worth it)... also note that
> Micheal Koling [author of BlueJ] has  an companion text "Objects First"
> [I forget the full title] that is a very good graceful but complete
> introduction to Java/OO.

If I were required to teach Java, then I would be very likely to use BlueJ, for 
that and any many other reasons which collectively can be summed up as "you 
can't teach a OO language properly without teaching OO properly".

I doubt if I would even mention public static void main(String args...) until 
very late in the course -- sometime around the point that I started to talk 
about JNI and after we had covered J2EE.

(OK, that's a slight exaggeration ;-)

    -- chris 

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Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 13:09 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 05:19 -0800
    Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 05:28 -0800
      Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-06 13:36 +0000
      Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 13:44 +0000
        Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 10:49 -0500
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 11:45 -0500
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-01-06 19:44 +0000
            Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 16:09 -0500
              Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-01-06 21:46 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 14:02 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 14:12 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 10:42 -0500

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