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Re: "Hello world!" without a public class?

Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2013-01-06 05:28 -0800
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Subject Re: "Hello world!" without a public class?
From "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com>

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Comments on entery point and teaching Java:
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> It makes sense for historical reasons (it was designed to model the Unix/C convention [likely a hold over before the JVM itself was created]).

Even though I detest IDE's for actual professional use when I learned Java (to save money I decided to do it through the local community college since I already had a CS background) they used BlueJ and one feature it had really helped in this regard... the feature being that you where allowed in instantiate any class from the IDE directly and needed no wrapping classes/main/etc. this was of great benefit to the students who where in their first programming class, I did some tutoring of the newer students, (it did hinder them slightly when they transferred to Sr. colleges but I think the trade off was worth it)... also note that Micheal Koling [author of BlueJ] has  an companion text "Objects First" [I forget the full title] that is a very good graceful but complete introduction to Java/OO.

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Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 13:09 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 05:19 -0800
    Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Friedman@gmail.com> - 2013-01-06 05:28 -0800
      Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-06 13:36 +0000
      Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 13:44 +0000
        Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 10:49 -0500
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 11:45 -0500
          Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-01-06 19:44 +0000
            Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 16:09 -0500
              Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-01-06 21:46 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 14:02 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2013-01-06 14:12 +0000
  Re: "Hello world!" without a public class? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-01-06 10:42 -0500

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