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Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT)

From Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT)
Date 2012-06-03 12:13 -0700
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BGB wrote:
> Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> If you with VB means VB.NET then you are absolutely correct.
>>
>> VB.NET is C# with VB syntax and C# is close to a superset of Java.
>>
>
> generally, yes.
>
> but, a person could try to argue that they are "totally different", say
> because of using "namespace" and "using" rather than "package" and "import",
> and ":" in class definitions instead of "extends" and "implements", ...
>
> however, these are likely minor differences (many are primarily cosmetic, and
> some others could conceivably be made to work on the JVM as well).

"namespace" and "using" are significantly different from 'package' and 
'import' in semantics.

>> And the .NET library is also rather close to the Java library.
>>
>> Anders Hejlsberg worked on MS Java before he started working
>> on .NET and C#.
>
> yeah, pretty much.
>
> there is a lot of overlap, although to me it looks like in some cases things
> were simplified and merged vs Java, for example, in Java there are a lot of
> classes for file IO with only minor variations, whereas in .NET a smaller
> number of classes fill a similar role.

.Net emanated from J++ back when.

J++ got Microsoft slapped in court for violating Java trademark rules.

They rebranded it and changed certain things, improving them with some of the 
non-compliant enhancements they'd given J++, and more.

So the lineage is direct.

> there are also many cases where the classes have the same names, and many
> methods with the same names and arguments (although using FirstLetterCaps
> rather than camelCase, ...).

That is still camel case.

> but, there are many differences as well.

"If I have seen farther than other men, it is because I have stood on the 
shoulders of giants."
- Sir Isaac Newton

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
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Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-02 10:39 -0400
  Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-02 10:40 -0400
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-02 09:41 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-03 00:44 -0700
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-03 09:18 -0400
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-03 09:15 -0400
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 13:50 -0500
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-03 19:29 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:35 -0400
            Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-16 23:29 -0700
              Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-17 18:33 -0400
  Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 13:26 -0500
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 12:13 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 15:42 -0500
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 14:23 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 14:25 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-05 09:22 -0500
            Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 09:54 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:34 -0400
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-24 17:02 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-24 23:09 -0700
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:30 -0400

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