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Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT)

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On 6/3/2012 2:26 PM, BGB wrote:
> On 6/2/2012 9:39 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 6/2/2012 7:39 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>> BASIC was the first programming language I learned and the
>>> second programming language I was giving classes for (the
>>> first one being Pascal).
>>>
>>> In the next week, I will give my first VB class. So - for
>>> preparation - I did have a look at some VB source code.
>>> And I had an eerie feeling when reading the following part,
>>> thinking: This is actually Java, just with a BASIC syntax!
>>>
>>> If ret.StartsWith("-") Or ret.StartsWith("/") Then Throw New
>>> Exception(...)
>>>
>>> I mean, »String#startsWith« and »throw new Exception ...« are
>>> not part of the classic BASIC, but surely are part of Java!
>>>
>>> (But then, one can also dispute that VB actually /has/ a BASIC
>>> syntax: There are no line numbers, it does not understand
>>> LET, GOSUB nor »PRINT 1,2;3«. And of course, there is no
>>> »MAT«, »DEF FN...« or READ/DATA. So it's Java with a made-up
>>> syntax, which possibly partially resembles BASIC.)
>>>
>>> Well, Java surely is influential. Maybe the
>>> programming-language landscape will slowly converge to some
>>> set of common features/classes and syntax.
>>
>> If you with VB means VB.NET then you are absolutely correct.
>>
>> VB.NET is C# with VB syntax and C# is close to a superset of Java.
>
> generally, yes.
>
> but, a person could try to argue that they are "totally different", say
> because of using "namespace" and "using" rather than "package" and
> "import", and ":" in class definitions instead of "extends" and
> "implements", ...
>
> however, these are likely minor differences (many are primarily
> cosmetic, and some others could conceivably be made to work on the JVM
> as well).

The other way is easier. J# proved that.

Arne

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Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-02 10:39 -0400
  Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-02 10:40 -0400
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-02 09:41 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-03 00:44 -0700
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-03 09:18 -0400
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-03 09:15 -0400
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 13:50 -0500
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-03 19:29 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:35 -0400
            Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-16 23:29 -0700
              Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-17 18:33 -0400
  Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 13:26 -0500
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 12:13 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 15:42 -0500
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 14:23 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 14:25 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-05 09:22 -0500
            Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 09:54 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:34 -0400
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-24 17:02 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-24 23:09 -0700
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:30 -0400

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