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Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT)

Date 2012-06-02 10:40 -0400
From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT)
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On 6/2/2012 10:39 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 6/2/2012 7:39 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>> BASIC was the first programming language I learned and the
>> second programming language I was giving classes for (the
>> first one being Pascal).
>>
>> In the next week, I will give my first VB class. So - for
>> preparation - I did have a look at some VB source code.
>> And I had an eerie feeling when reading the following part,
>> thinking: This is actually Java, just with a BASIC syntax!
>>
>> If ret.StartsWith("-") Or ret.StartsWith("/") Then Throw New
>> Exception(...)
>>
>> I mean, »String#startsWith« and »throw new Exception ...« are
>> not part of the classic BASIC, but surely are part of Java!
>>
>> (But then, one can also dispute that VB actually /has/ a BASIC
>> syntax: There are no line numbers, it does not understand
>> LET, GOSUB nor »PRINT 1,2;3«. And of course, there is no
>> »MAT«, »DEF FN...« or READ/DATA. So it's Java with a made-up
>> syntax, which possibly partially resembles BASIC.)
>>
>> Well, Java surely is influential. Maybe the
>> programming-language landscape will slowly converge to some
>> set of common features/classes and syntax.
>
> If you with VB means VB.NET then you are absolutely correct.
>
> VB.NET is C# with VB syntax and C# is close to a superset of Java.
>
> And the .NET library is also rather close to the Java library.
>
> Anders Hejlsberg worked on MS Java before he started working
> on .NET and C#.

Note that this also somewhat imply that you should not
expect a general convergence in languages/libraries as
these similarities have a very specific explanation.

Arne

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Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-02 10:39 -0400
  Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-02 10:40 -0400
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-02 09:41 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-06-03 00:44 -0700
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-03 09:18 -0400
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-03 09:15 -0400
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 13:50 -0500
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-06-03 19:29 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:35 -0400
            Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-16 23:29 -0700
              Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-17 18:33 -0400
  Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 13:26 -0500
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 12:13 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-03 15:42 -0500
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 14:23 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-03 14:25 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-05 09:22 -0500
            Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-05 09:54 -0700
      Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:34 -0400
        Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-24 17:02 -0700
          Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-24 23:09 -0700
    Re: eerie Java-BASIC (partially OT) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-06-16 23:30 -0400

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