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Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA

From "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA
Date 2012-04-01 12:36 +0800
Organization HTTP *is* The Box - Let's think outside
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"Rajiv Gupta" <rajiv@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On 2012-02-15 23:50:04 +1100, Richard Maher said:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anyone else gutted that the Chrome browser on Android will not support
>> JAVA, Flash or any other pluggin?
>>
>> I thought Google and Android were big on JAVA?
>>
>> Cheers Richard Maher
>

>
> Flash is no longer necessary since HTML5.

Choice and competition are often good things, as is supporting a client base 
that isn't that keen to be on the bleading edge. Leaving video aside, I 
still haven't seen a charting tool that can match what can be achieved with 
Flex charting.

> Flash is unwanted anyway

Seems pretty popular to me.

> as it
> offers some pernicious features for marketers (and others) to track users
> using Flash cookies.

With iOS giving everyone access to your contacts and address book let alone 
what sites like Facebook get up to, I see no reason to highlight Flash 
cookies. Also, given that Web-Sockets have been firstly removed from HTML5 
then disabled everywhere (except maybe Chrome) due to security flaws, I 
believe your smugness to be unjustified.

> I say good riddence to Flash.

With the cartel of Apple, Google, and Microsoft ganging up to destroy it, 
there doesn't appear to be any other course of action.

>
> The same goes for Java Applets.  It has been a long time since applets
> have been useful.

Bollocks!

While the pixel footprint of modern Applets may be reduced to zero, their 
usefulness continues unabated. Nothing else on the planet can provide the 
awesome, yet sandboxed, power of an unsigned Java Applet! Multi-tab, 
multi-threaded power and functionality only dreamt of by today's 
long-polling, Javascript, hacks. (I note you diddn't mention HTML5 
"worker-threads"; too embarassing for even you to gloat over?)

> I recommend that people disable Java in their browsers.

I'm sure your blog is just clocking up those clicks as we speak.

> It is just a security risk and a way to waste memory.

Yet I'm willing to wager that in the same breath you're a big jQuery 
cargo-cult fan.

> HTML  canvas and
> websockets and JS can do anything that you could do in Java in a browser.

Anyone who thinks WebSockets implemented over HTTP can come anywhere close 
to providing the full-blown functionality of a native TCP/IP or UDP socket 
is either in denial or just plain ignorant.

> Applets are a dying technology and the sooner they kick the bucket the
> better for everyone.

Certainly better for every supplier except Oracle. And all those developers 
who like more than one tool in the toolbox.
>
> As for Android. It is in my opinion a fiendishly clever honeypot aiding
> Google in collecting the identities of as many people in the world as they
> can.

Just another Apple fanbois?

>
>

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Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-02-15 20:50 +0800
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 09:57 -0800
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-15 17:13 -0700
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-15 19:21 -0500
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-15 18:37 -0700
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2012-02-16 13:21 +1100
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-16 21:23 -0500
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2012-02-17 21:52 +1100
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 10:22 -0800
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-17 21:49 -0500
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Fredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org> - 2012-02-17 18:53 +0000
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-17 15:38 -0500
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-17 21:36 -0500
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-02-17 21:53 +0100
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-04-01 12:36 +0800
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-04-01 07:33 -0700
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-04-16 21:07 +0800
          Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-16 14:22 -0700
            Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-04-17 06:36 +0800
              Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-16 19:59 -0400
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-16 22:18 -0300
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-16 21:53 -0400
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-04-01 13:39 -0500
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> - 2012-04-01 13:50 -0700
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-04-01 17:28 -0500
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> - 2012-04-01 17:14 -0700
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-01 20:16 -0400
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-01 21:40 -0300
          Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> - 2012-04-01 19:00 -0700
            Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-04-02 10:45 +0200
          Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-01 22:19 -0400
            Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-02 07:09 -0300
              Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-02 20:02 -0400
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-04-02 20:41 -0700
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> - 2012-04-02 22:42 -0500
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-04-03 08:13 -0700
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-04-03 09:46 -0700
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-03 19:42 -0400
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-03 19:35 -0400
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-04-03 17:04 -0700
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA eric@invalid.com (EricF) - 2012-04-04 03:36 +0000
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-04 19:35 -0400
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-04-04 18:42 +0000
                Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-04-04 18:42 +0000
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-01 20:20 -0400
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-04-02 20:25 +0800
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Thufir <hawat.thufir@gmail.com> - 2012-04-02 08:44 -0700
          Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-04-03 03:03 +0800
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-02 20:04 -0400
          Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-04-09 08:49 +0800
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-04-01 22:49 -0700
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-02 19:55 -0400

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