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Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA

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In <jhhp7k$sum$1@speranza.aioe.org> Rajiv Gupta wrote:

>  Android uses the Dalvik VM, ostensibly to take advantage of the CPU
>  architectures of the devices commonly used in mobile devices.  For
>  Google it also provides a convient firewall to keep out unwanted code
>  from their eco system.

Dalvik a firewall? Do you mean that was a oringinal goal or more like a
selling point after the fact?

My interpretation is that apart from performance, the dalvik vm was a
convenient way to work around some software patents on the JVM that Google
or android.com wouldn't be bothered to, didn't, or couldn't manage to
negotiate licensing for from Sun.

Besides, today you can deploy C, C++, python, ruby, Perl, JRuby, Lua,
BeanShell, JavaScript, Tcl, shell, scala, and Java source code in one way or
another on Android devices. So if dalvik was intended to be a firewall, I
wonder in what sense? The only thing I haven't heard of yet is true Java
byte code execution on a true JVM on Android. In theory it could be done
using the OpenJDK ARM port i guess.

Not so sure why a "true" JVM on the Android would be a priority though? I
find that with a rather small effort my source code can easily pass between
my Android app projects and my Java EE projects. My experience is that
Android in some sense is surprisingly true to the original WORA promise of
Java.

>  As for Android. It is in my opinion a fiendishly clever honeypot aiding
>  Google in collecting the identities of as many people in the world as
>  they can.

Cyanogenmod is your friend. Available for many Android devices and wont tell
Google about your existence if you don't ask it to.

Anyway, comparing with the popular alternatives Android is for sure the
lesser of evils on the mobile device market.

Oh, and on topic: I wont miss flash on my Android phone.

--
Fredrik Jonson

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Chrome for Android does not support JAVA "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> - 2012-02-15 20:50 +0800
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 09:57 -0800
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-15 17:13 -0700
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-15 19:21 -0500
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-02-15 18:37 -0700
  Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2012-02-16 13:21 +1100
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-16 21:23 -0500
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Rajiv Gupta <rajiv@invalid.com> - 2012-02-17 21:52 +1100
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 10:22 -0800
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-17 21:49 -0500
    Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Fredrik Jonson <fredrik@jonson.org> - 2012-02-17 18:53 +0000
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-17 15:38 -0500
        Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-02-17 21:36 -0500
      Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-02-17 21:53 +0100

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