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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Ubuntu |
| Date | 2011-10-16 00:57 +0000 |
| Organization | UK Free Software Network |
| Message-ID | <j7da6e$bgh$3@localhost.localdomain> (permalink) |
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:01:46 -0700, Roedy Green wrote: > I am a puzzled by the Unix folk having so many ways of handling the GUI. > I have heard of Gnome 1 2 3, KDE, X-Windows, Xfce, Unify > Because we get a choice over the L&F. Everything uses X11, aka X-windows: thats the underlying display technology for all graphical displays on UNIX/Linux but it doesn't do window management/desktops. X-term is a non- graphical way of using X11 as a text-mode terminal -rather like a DOS box, but capable of talking to both local and remote hosts. To do anything useful with X11 you use a window manager: all distros pick one to use as default and each has its own style of handling the desktop, decorating application windows, launching applications, etc. etc. - hence the religious wars and differences of opinion over them. The common ones are Gnome and KDE (the two commonest ones), XFCE (very basic, but lightweight. If you run up VNC the default desktop for it is XFCE) and Unity (currently restricted to Ubuntu, introduced because they hate Gnome 3 but its reportedly disliked just as much). Gnome 1,2,3 are just versions of Gnome - think Java 2,3,4,5 6,.... > Which does Java use? > None, but Swing has a limited ability provide the same look and feel as the native windows manager for the system the JVM is installed on as well as Java's cross-platform Metal look & feel, e.g. G3 buttons and text entry boxes have rounded corners, but Java doesn't and its default button background gradient is different, as is the main menu bar though the appearance is fairly close. The title bar and its drop-down menus are, however, identical. > When you write a C program do you have to pick one? or do they share a > common core API? > No, they have different APIs. My distro uses Gnome by default but can support KDE. Almost all the apps I use are Gnome apps, but I do use one or two KDEapps. They run OK, but have a slightly different look & feel and drag in a whole bunch of KDEsupport libraries - but a decent package installer deals with that automatically. Package installers also differ: RedHat distros such as Fedora and Redhat clones use yum, Ubuntu and the other Debian clones use apt. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
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