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Re: Indentation styles

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On 14/05/13 01:44, Lew wrote:
> Jim Gibson wrote:
>> Arne Vajh�j wrote:
>>> I am sure that you *can* [use the same formatting style for different languages].
>>>
>>> But you will end up with N-1 or N languages being
>>> formatted "unusual".
>>
>> To my limited knowledge Java is the only language whose originating
>> vendor publishes an "official" formatting standard. Usually, it is
>> individuals, groups, or organizations that develop formatting standards
>> and attempt to enforce them for some body of work.
>>
>> Authors will use a consistent formatting style, and these can become
>> defacto standards (e.g., Kernighan and Ritchie, Stroustrup).
>>
>> I, too, try to be consistent in formatting style when moving between
>> languages whenever possible, because it makes me more productive.
>>
>> I have worked on projects with practically no standards, and others
>> with extensive standards, but they never seemed to be enforced.
>> Usually, the customer just wants the project finished, and never mind
>> about the format of the code.
>
> Here other programmers are "the customer", and we're here to help with source
> code, or talk about other related matters where source code is part of the discussion.
>
> Even if the language, such as C, doesn't have an official standard but it does have a de
> facto standard, standards is standards.
>
> Whatever your customer wants is irrelevant. Here we want to talk about code. We are
> not rigid about the "official" standard, but deviate too far from the social norm and you
> lose audience. Your customer is not part of this process so why mention him?

You whine about people disagreeing with you then you come out with this 
old bollocks. There's no need for it, it was just a passing comment yet 
you seem to feel it needs a dose of your usual vitriol and criticism.

It was a perfectly valid point in the context of a discussion on code 
style. Enlightened customers may insist on a certain standard, less 
enlightened ones may not and only care about getting the software so 
that they may use it to enhance their business.

Actually there is a whole discussion around the difference between what 
a customer wants and what they actually need but I suppose that *is* 
slightly OT, no need for the sniping though is there?

lipska

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Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer
and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun

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Re: Indentation styles Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-07 17:56 +0200
  Re: Indentation styles lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-07 17:39 +0100
    Re: Indentation styles Wojtek <nowhere@a.com> - 2013-05-07 13:35 -0700
      Re: Indentation styles Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-05-07 21:29 +0000
        Re: Indentation styles Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-05-08 17:56 -0300
          Re: Indentation styles Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-12 22:07 -0400
            Re: Indentation styles Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-05-13 11:02 -0700
              Re: Indentation styles Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-13 19:04 -0400
                Re: Indentation styles Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-05-13 17:34 -0700
                Re: Indentation styles Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-13 17:44 -0700
                Re: Indentation styles lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-14 09:26 +0100
                Re: Indentation styles Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 10:23 -0700
                Re: Indentation styles Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-17 19:43 -0400
                Re: Indentation styles Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-17 19:42 -0400
                Re: Indentation styles Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-13 20:53 -0400
                Re: Indentation styles Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-14 13:07 +0200
                Re: Indentation styles Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-05-15 18:47 -0300
                Re: Indentation styles Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-16 05:28 +0200
                Re: Indentation styles Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-05-17 19:44 -0300
                Re: Indentation styles Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2013-05-26 20:35 +0300
      Re: Indentation styles Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-05-08 00:00 +0200
      Re: Indentation styles Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-05-08 11:12 -0700
  Re: Indentation styles Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2013-05-07 23:57 +0200

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