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Re: Style Police (a rant)

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On Sep 26, 8:50 pm, Jane Doe <j...@love.in.d.jungle.invalid> wrote:
> D********* ([insult deleted]) caused <roops...@gmail.com> to wish:

Don't be ridiculous. I am my own person. Nobody caused me to anything.

> >Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
> >name on the internet?
>
> Plenty of "normal" Usenet posters do this daily, right here in cjlp also.

Well, since most people are idiots, that just helps to prove my point.

> You did too, once.

Yes, for a while I did post as Jerry Gerrone. Fat lot of good it did
me.

> Thinking one and all would fall for that display of [insult deleted] of the event

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

> has become the rope that hangs you, Paul.

My name is not Paul, and you have no authority whatsoever to be
"hanging" anybody, anonyshit.

> http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C49223bfe%240...

What the fuck is that? Do you really think I'm dumb enough to click on
a link posted by a nutbag with clearly hostile motives and that leads
to a site I've never heard of? It's probably chock full of viruses or
something.

> Proving (to you) one cannot TROLL Usenet using their own name.

So, naturally, you troll usenet as "Jane Doe" instead -- whoever you
are.

> Only full blown [insult deleted] try it.

Fascinating. But since I don't troll, not relevant to me, and since
you're safely behind your cowardly shield of anonymity, not relevant
to you either.

> The very same [insult deleted] use Google Groups "hiding". LOL

Says the one who is hiding not only their name, but their IP as well.
Afraid of cyber-retribution, troll?

> Same DNS as Paul G D********* of Bennet St, Pembroke.

I have no idea who that is.

> How strange is that ?

You are exceedingly strange. You should probably go see a shrink.

> >Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.
>
> Not in posting ID, sure, but you sure live and breathe, Paul[..]albeit with
> the aid of a freebie Shrink and a host of stabilising freebie drugs!

My name isn't Paul and the only one who needs a shrink around here is
you.

> >On the other hand, we might make some deductions from your accusation.
>
> Oh do .. tale your classic erroneous presuppositions

I have none, d-bag.

> and build yourself a dream.

Even if it involves you developing a flatline EEG?

Then again, judging from the meaningless offtopic drivel that fills
all your posts to cljp to date, perhaps you already have one.

> >The people trolling here seem to be Jane Doe,
>
> Definitely. Wholly FLOWN (flag) stamped, signed, delivered by registered post.

So, you admit it. Now will you fuck off and let we in cljp get on with
discussing Java?

> And? You are going to do what about that, D********* Troll.

Who the fuck is that? Since you just admitted to being a troll, I
suppose that would be you. So why are you talking to yourself, troll?

> >kaffelatte,
>
> Whomever the fuck that poster is you best get some proof before some k00k (one
> of your other names) threatens suit for defamation! LOL

The "other names" are to get around bugs and wonkiness with google
groups, no more. I make no secret of their being me -- nebulous,
bbound, and so forth.

You, on the other hand, smell like a sock puppeteer to me. I'm
guessing you're kaffel'latte and probably others too, and probably a
cljp regular who wants to start a fresh flamewar but doesn't want any
of the resulting mud to stick to his main posting identity here. Arne?
Nah, your style's different from his trademarked "nasty, brutish, and
short". And you're not as literate and cussword-averse as Lew.
Attardi, perhaps? Or maybe Lars-hole, or even Wildemar back from the
cyber-dead. Crudity was certainly commonplace enough in *his* posts.

> >and you, for the most part.
>
> Attardi hasn't been here five minutes.

Attardi has been in this group on and off for years, and has a history
of provoking flamewars.

> You are quick to judge or recognise yourself easily LOL

Now you're just not making sense. Oh, wait, you never HAVE made sense
since you started posting here a couple weeks ago ... with this
particular sock.

> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=0zXIyhkAAADfXj-vwhd9...

What the fuck is the relevance of that?

> >Maybe also thoolen.
>
> oh cute. Not. Denial. Paul?

Who the hell is Paul?

> >(The rest seem to be either normal
> >or misinformed, rather than actively and intentionally trolling.)
>
> From your record - all traceable to YOU.

The paranoia you are exhibiting here is staggering. You think ALL the
cljp regulars are sockpuppets of mine?! You're out of your fucking
gourd is what you are.

> Murphy's List:

I don't know who most of those are and I couldn't care less. Why are
you trying to drag me into your feuds with other people, particularly
(it seems) thoolen?

> Retahiv Oopsiscame <roops...@gmail.com>

That one's me.

> scuzwa...@gmail.com

And that one.

I don't know anything about the other 71 names on your list. If that's
a list of your enemies, might I suggest that you've bitten off way,
way more than you can chew? If even five of them fight back you're
pretty much toast, or if a single one of them knows a lot about
computer hacking and doesn't have saintly levels of self-restraint.

Regardless, making a huge and diverse list of people you allege are
conspiring against you is a sure sign of clinical paranoia. Seek help.

> >And you're probably not referring to yourself.
>
> And you are again chatting to yourself, likely.

Pot, kettle ...

> See how easy it is to [implied insult deleted]. [implied insult deleted]

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

> All are "whacko" except you, Paul.

My name is Jerry.

> How true that is it your view of the World.

No, my view of the world is that most people are idiots, and that view
is vindicated on a daily basis in my interactions with everyone from
customers to business partners to tech support to usenetters,
including, and especially, you. And further vindicated by just about
every news headline, particularly if it falls under the category of
"crime" or that of "politics". And further vindicated by television --
wall to wall reality-TV bullshit these days. And further vindicated by
radio -- wall to wall right-wing talk bullshit these days. The rare
smart person I run into stands out, like a diamond in a sack of coal.
And you're not one of them.

> A "for Free" view I would add.

???

Now you're back to pure non sequiturs.

[lots of garbled cruft consisting largely of punctuation characters
deleted]

> Your behavior, Paul, is beyond ludicrous in the mind of the informed
> observer.

Who are you talking to? There's nobody here by that name.
Hallucinating now, psycho?

> What it is in your head which directs your thinking
> of the World out there owing you a stage littered with fools for you
> to toy with at will is a total mystery, one I would wager even your shrink
> struggles with.

Projecting much? You sure seem to think Usenet is your own private
performance stage. Let's tick off the boxes, shall we?

[x] You post to newsgroups where your rants are off-topic and
inappropriate.
[x] You post your own personal wacko beliefs and ravings, as if they
were fact.
[x] You post your own personal wacko beliefs and ravings, as if anyone
else much cared.
[x] You seem to be insistent upon trying to have the last word.
[x] You think you're the one sane one and everyone else is wrong/mad.
[x] You project all of these things onto everyone else you come into
contact with.
[x] You have even admitted to being a troll, using the exact word
"troll".

> It is not the responsibility of anyone using Usenet to provide you with a
> free psycho analysis, hand feeding you a "cure".

Fortunately, unlike you I have no need of one, since unlike you I have
no psychological issues to work out.

> This as not only is it that the lies you publish would [implied insult deleted]
> professional assessment in a text only environment is as of much value
> (real worth) as the opinions of one of your [implied insult deleted]

No, you're the psycho.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

> It is very clear you [insult deleted][threat deleted]

No, you're the juvenile delinquent.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

I don't respond well to threats.

> "Retahiv Oopsiscame" <roops...@gmail.com>
> is the name you used to argue with "blm...@myrealbox.com"

So?

> [http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131612707500]

What?

> all the while leaping the thread with;

What?

> "Jerry Gerrone" [http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131613873900]

What?

> [calls me a liar]

No, you're the liar.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

> Article =http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cc51ff61e-ddf...
> Google Archive =http://groups.google.com/group/alt.off-topic/msg/58b746e6ae52c1ff?dmo...
> Parent Thread =http://groups.google.com/group/alt.off-topic/browse_thread/thread/8d3...

What is the relevance of any of that?

> Today you believe it is "safe" to pop the name again, [insult deleted].

No, you're the crazy one.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

> Whois "Retahiv Oopsiscame ' --->[insult deleted]

No, you're the troll (by your own admission).

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

> [implied insult deleted], D*********?

I have no idea who you're addressing that to.

> IP address:                     76.64.158.18
> Reverse DNS:                    bas13-kitchener06-1279303186.dsl.bell.ca.
> City:      Toronto, Ontario

What is the relevance of this? So, I'm from Toronto. So what?

> IP address:                     70.54.8.115
> Reverse DNS:                    bas1-ottawa10-1177946227.dsl.bell.ca.
> City :      Montreal, Quebec
> Country :   CA [Canada]

This is even less relevant. Who's posting here from Montreal?

> Give this your best shot at maths, Paul, you're the expert;

Who the fuck is Paul? Is it you, perhaps?

> Do build the audience a picture from how it is 32 months after
> "Retahiv Oopsiscame" posts from your neighbourhood
> in "chat" with your "Jerry Gerrone" sock,

The reason for my multiple Google Groups accounts was well-documented,
and if, as I suspect, you are a sock of a veteran of past flamewars
here, you were surely there. So, have you developed Alzheimer's or
something?

> the identical ID is used to again "chat" with you mimicking the
> performance you put out now as "Cthun"

You really are insane. Cthun is the freaking *enemy* in case you
hadn't noticed, one of those pro-Lisp wackos. His kind have invaded
before, causing chaos and flamewars. Did you not notice that we are on
OPPOSITE SIDES?! Geez, and you're the one calling other people mad?

> not at all dismissing you are [false accusation deleted]

Ex-fucking-SCUSE me? My gmail address is quite genuine -- in fact, it
is not possible to post via Google Groups with a fake one at all, let
alone forge someone else's!

So, once again, none of the nasty things that you have said or implied
about me are at all true.

> what is the logical possibility of such an event being sheer
> coincidence, Paul?

Talking to yourself again, Paul?

> Two entirely disconnected identities being addressed by the same
> persona who, using the same argumentative approach
> and the same "bait/switch" presentation fills the group with
> rants of self-proclamation rants (airs and graces).

Those would be "Jane Doe" and "kaffel'latte", I presume -- the same
persona, using the same argumentative approach, posting irrelevant
things to threads that were originally about other stuff, and filling
the group with rants.

> Give up the numbers, Paul.

Why are you making rudely-phrased demands of yourself, Paul?

> Crunch them down.

Why are you making rudely-phrased demands of yourself, Paul?

> You got all night.. and no neighbors!http://i51.tinypic.com/28us11y.jpo

I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. It's the middle of
the morning and I have several neighbors. You're fucking crazy is what
you are. Hallucinating. Out of your gourd.

> "Retahiv Oopsiscame" goes on the list.

Ooooh! I'm positively quaking in my boots! Go ahead. Put me on "the
list". That'll set me straight!

> Attardi best come up with something new or that ID too
> I add to  "Murpohy's List".

Ooooh! More threats, this time directed at one of your own fucking
side.

See, kids? This is why the good guys always win -- because the bad
guys can't resist eventually stabbing one another in the back. Look,
Wildemar (or whoever this twit is) just threatened one of his own top
lieutenants with being put on "the list"! The "you have failed me for
the last time!" speech and telekinetic choke surely can't be too far
behind. ;)

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