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Re: Style Police (a rant)

From Jane Doe <jdoe@love.in.d.jungle.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer, comp.lang.java.help, comp.lang.lisp
Subject Re: Style Police (a rant)
Date 2011-09-27 00:50 +0000
Organization Bandar Bandits
References (3 earlier) <be222faf-4b16-4007-b31d-f81f1b07963a@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <4E6DBD5D.6020604@telia.com> <98ab45c0-2a9e-4f09-8e11-d128d6ebe206@1g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> <d12800ad-543a-46a7-85d8-fbefa0d2b1b8@y6g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <de0e7224-c165-4044-8500-e83020e59021@e9g2000vby.googlegroups.com>
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Derbyshire (spazums) caused <roopsisc@gmail.com> to wish:

>On Sep 23, 1:54 pm, Joe Attardi <jatta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 13, 12:59 am, Retahiv Oopsiscame <roops...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
>> > all true.
>>
>> Holy cow! This guy hasn't changed one bit (except a new fake name, I
>> see).
>
>Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
>name on the internet?
>
Plenty of "normal" Usenet posters do this daily, right here in cjlp also.
You did too, once. Thinking one and all would fall for that display
of stupidity of the event has become the rope that hangs you, Paul.
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C49223bfe%240%2490264%2414726298%40news.sunsite.dk%3E
Proving (to you) one cannot TROLL Usenet using their own name.
Only full blown IDIOTS try it.

The very same IDIOTs use Google Groups "hiding". LOL
IP address:                     74.12.180.78
Reverse DNS:                    [No reverse DNS entry per
toroon63nszp05.srvr.bell.ca.]
City (per outside source):      Toronto, Ontario

Same DNS as Paul G Derbyshire of Bennet St, Pembroke.
How strange is that ?

>> Paul Derbyshire! It's been years! Still trolling well, I see.
>
>Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.
>
Not in posting ID, sure, but you sure live and breathe, Paul[..]albeit with
the aid of a freebie Shrink and a host of stabilising freebie drugs!

>On the other hand, we might make some deductions from your accusation.
>
Oh do .. tale your classic erroneous presuppositions and build yourself a
dream.

>The people trolling here seem to be Jane Doe, 
>
Definitely. Wholly FLOWN (flag) stamped, signed, delivered by registered post.
And? You are going to do what about that, Derbyshire Troll.

>kaffelatte, 
>
Whomever the fuck that poster is you best get some proof before some k00k (one
of your other names) threatens suit for defamation! LOL

>and you, for the most part. 
>
Attardi hasn't been here five minutes. You are quick to judge or recognise
yourself easily LOL
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=0zXIyhkAAADfXj-vwhd9j4wh1TzPUDmwMZdjjkHRqd2dfOv7c9ZT9A

>Maybe also thoolen. 
>
oh cute. Not. Denial. Paul?

>(The rest seem to be either normal
>or misinformed, rather than actively and intentionally trolling.) 
>
From your record - all traceable to YOU.

Murphy's List:

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00101010 <zerozeroonezeroonezeroonezero@h2g2.cazoola>
3k7e4intna <3k7e4intna@se0tfbhc.k3y0a.p0z>
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3x+r4v4g4n <extr4v4g4n@fr0gs0up.x3l0n.c0m>
Alice <quaxx1108@example.com>
Arne Këndoj <akendoj103@foof.fcl3.org>
Boojum <boojum42@gmai1.c0m>
B1ll Gat3s <wm.g4t3s@m1cr0s0f7.c0m>
A Canuck <canuck36@tweezit.yahoo.ca>
Canuck <canuck107@canada.xyz>
ClassCastException <zjkg3d9gj56@gmail.invalid>
Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au>
Chad Carmichael <c_carm10782.x@y.z>
dA.b0mB <dabomb@gmai1.c0m>
dark-zark-fark <dzf190485@rutgers.edu>
Deep Green <d_green11908@gmail.com> (forgery)
Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid>
De Lurker <delancey_s113@harvard.nospam.invalid>
Derek Yancey <dy190295683@nospam.invalid>
Extravagan <extravagan@frogsoup.xelon.com>
Ferdinand the -14th <foo@bar.invalid>
Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council
<fp-eotbp-gc@ibm.com>
George Arctos <g.arctos11@hormair.cor>
Greg Kelly <gkelly101_4@gmai1.c0m>
Greg Sandoval <g_sandoval@gcsma.edu.br>
Gheerax IV <gheerax.4@gmail.invalid>
Handkea fumosa <hfumosa@gmail.com>
Hieronymus S. Freely <hsfreely@xavier.uwsc.edu>
Hydrocon <hcon77107@geemail.corn>
Henry Harrison <hharr.1082@quux.bar.foo>
Henderson <h1@g1.f1>
Heike Svensson <hsvensson.1093x1_q@hotmail.nospam.com.please>
Harry Greer <h_greer_1099348@gmail.xxx>
Janie Zanie <jjezebel916@gmai1.invalid>
Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla@gmail.com>
John Kirkpatrick XVII <jkxvii@ask.me>
Katie Gerrolds <k.gerrolds@nbfinlan.net>
Kevin Hadron <kh_mu_meson@q.us>
kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de>
KitKat <kitkat_11697@gmail.example.com>
Meerkats <mk_ultra.19018@gmail.com> (forgery)
Mister Scott <m_scott.19477b@noggles.corn>
Mrs. Danforth <danforth_a@hotmail.coo>
Mike Faramis <m_faramis808@qmail.nospam.net>
Mamac <mmc.19384_b@gmai1.com>
Nancy 3 <n3@gmai1.c0m>
Nancy 4 <n4@gmai1.c0m> (forgery)
Nebulous <nebulous99@gmail.com>
Nightcrawler <Dirtydeeds@dirtcheap.net>
Nougat Surprise <nsurprise@noway.nohow.invalid>
Orange Green <og_b1823@netmail.zoog.com.au> 
Purpleswandir <ps_1201294@gmail.com>
Retahiv Oopsiscame <roopsisc@gmail.com>
RichB <rich_barnsley@nowhere.com>
scuzwalla@gmail.com
SFTV_troll <SFTV_troll@yah.right>
Some Guy <Some@Guy.com>
Sulfide Eater <zaxx1108@example.com>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
Spock <spock@starfleet.ufp>
Series Expansion <serexp1@gmail.com>
Seamus MacRae <smacrae319@live.ca.invalid>
Snicker-snack! <ssnack119@g00glema1l.c0m>
Tim <tharrison77107@h0tmail.invalid>
Thursday's Leftovers <thursday.197@hotmail.com>
thoolen <thoolen@tholenbot.thorium>
thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com>
thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium>
<th00len@th0lenbot.thorium>
Willy Wonka <w.wonk1028_x@gmail.xyz>
Zapotec <z_gib@wav.com>

>And you're probably not referring to yourself. 
>
And you are again chatting to yourself, likely.
See how easy it is to put thoughts up, with no 
basis. Anyone can do that, nothing at all "clever " about it.

>Perhaps that Jane Doe wacko?
>

All are "whacko" except you, Paul. How true that is it your 
view of the World. A "for Free" view I would add.

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%%%From: Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au>
%%%Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
%%%Subject: Re: Style Police (a rant)
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%%%On 26/09/2011 6:13 PM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
%%%> On Sep 17, 7:36 pm, Cthun<cthun_...@qmail.net.au>  wrote:
%%%>> On 16/09/2011 6:26 AM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
%%%>>> On Sep 15, 10:37 am, Cthun<cthun_...@qmail.net.au>  wrote:
%%%>>>> [calls me a liar]
%%%>>
%%%>>> No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
%%%>>> are at all true.
%%%>>
%%%>> What?? Where did I call you a liar?
%%%>
%%%> Two posts ago.
%%%
%%%I did not.
%%%
%%%>> Lisps tend to accrue fairly standard libraries of third-party macros
%%%>> everyone learns to recognize.
%%%>
%%%> More complexity to learn. And this stuff is supposed to make the
%%%> programmer's job *easier*?
%%%
%%%All programming languages and libraries have "complexity to learn".
%%%
%%%>> And of course you usually have access to the macro's source.
%%%>
%%%> "Having access to" and "being able to read and understand" can
%%%> sometimes be worlds apart. In my years of working with other peoples'
%%%> code, I've seen shit that will turn you white. Also check out The
%%%> Daily WTF.
%%%
%%%Fortunately, standard library macros don't tend to be terrible like that 
%%%-- at least for open source implementations.
%%%
%%%>> The ability to define functions or classes already suffices to allow
%%%>> programmers to turn a language into a Tower of Babel,
%%%>
%%%> Call semantics for functions are well defined -- argument evaluation,
%%%> etc. Those for macros are pretty much arbitrary -- whatever the macro
%%%> author intended. (Or didn't, but caused anyway.)
%%%
%%%A specious argument. What a function's results are is just as arbitrary, 
%%%but we accept functions.
%%%
%%%>> yet nearly all languages allow user-defined functions and/or classes in
%%%>> some form or another, and ones that allow neither are considered archaic
%%%>> and crippled.
%%%>
%%%> A car without an automatic ignition would also be considered archaic
%%%> and crippled; that doesn't mean a car without a satellite radio would
%%%> be.
%%%
%%%What about one without fuel injection?
%%%
%%%>>> Something familiar in how you write. You remind me of someone I had a
%%%>>> very long argument with here, long ago. Appropriately, his name was
%%%>>> "Bent".
%%%>>
%%%>> [implied insult deleted]
%%%>
%%%> No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
%%%> are at all true.
%%%
%%%WTF??
%%%
%%%>> Quick quiz:
%%%>
%%%> I finished school a while ago. Go fuck yourself.
%%%
%%%Okay. I think maybe we're done here.

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%%%What does that coincidence have to do with OS/2, tholenbot?
%%%
%%%> and all sharing the same misattribution problem:
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%%%What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2, 
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Your behavior, Paul, is beyond ludicrous in the mind of the informed 
observer. What it is in your head which directs your thinking 
of the World out there owing you a stage littered with fools for you 
to toy with at will is a total mystery, one I would wager even your shrink 
struggles with.
It is not the responsibility of anyone using Usenet to provide you with a 
free psycho analysis, hand feeding you a "cure". This as not only is it 
that the lies you publish would cloud such a diagnosis but the worth of 
professional assessment in a text only environment is as of much value 
(real worth) as the opinions of one of your holed socks!
http://i51.tinypic.com/28us11y.jpg

It is very clear you have not grown beyond knowing your activity is 
archived, is traceable, and is yours.
"Retahiv Oopsiscame" <roopsisc@gmail.com>
is the name you used to argue with "blmblm@myrealbox.com"
[http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131612707500]
all the while leaping the thread with;
"Jerry Gerrone" [http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131613873900]
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is most appropriate for you to 
have some fun with.

Article =
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cc51ff61e-ddfa-424f-af4a-87efb416e983%4035g2000pry.googlegroups.com%3E
Google Archive =
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.off-topic/msg/58b746e6ae52c1ff?dmode=source
Parent Thread =
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.off-topic/browse_thread/thread/8d3076ce3870be2b/58b746e6ae52c1ff?q=author:roopsisc%40gmail.com


Today you believe it is "safe" to pop the name again, sad mad prat.
Whois "Retahiv Oopsiscame ' --->http://preview.tinyurl.com/Derbysh-reTrolls

I gather even you are capable of joining the dots, Derbyshire?

IP address:                     76.64.158.18
Reverse DNS:                    bas13-kitchener06-1279303186.dsl.bell.ca.
City:      Toronto, Ontario

From: Retahiv Oopsiscame <roopsisc@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: Re: Style Police (a rant)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID:
<19a1f215-7fa0-434e-a517-c260f600b495@l10g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.54.8.115

IP address:                     70.54.8.115
Reverse DNS:                    bas1-ottawa10-1177946227.dsl.bell.ca.
City :      Montreal, Quebec
Country :   CA [Canada]

Give this your best shot at maths, Paul, you're the expert;
http://66.39.71.195/Derbyshire/hypergal.html
Do build the audience a picture from how it is 32 months after 
"Retahiv Oopsiscame" posts from your neighbourhood
in "chat" with your "Jerry Gerrone" sock, the identical ID is used to 
again "chat" with you mimicking the performance you put out now as
"Cthun" - not at all dismissing you are using a SMTP DNS you are 
not permitted to use - what is the logical possibility of such an 
event being sheer coincidence, Paul?
Two entirely disconnected identities being addressed by the same 
persona who, using the same argumentative approach 
and the same "bait/switch" presentation fills the group with 
rants of self-proclamation rants (airs and graces). 
Give up the numbers, Paul.
Crunch them down.
You got all night.. and no neighbors!
http://i51.tinypic.com/28us11y.jpo

"Retahiv Oopsiscame" goes on the list.

Attardi best come up with something new or that ID too
I add to  "Murpohy's List".

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    Re: Style Police (a rant) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-09-12 15:35 -0700
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            Re: Style Police (a rant) Jane Doe <jdoe@love.in.d.jungle.invalid> - 2011-09-26 21:14 +0000
              Re: Style Police (a rant) thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-09-26 17:50 -0400
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            Re: Style Police (a rant) tisue@cs.nwu.edu (Seth Tisue) - 2011-09-27 08:55 -0600
              Re: Style Police (a rant) thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-09-27 14:14 -0400
            Re: Style Police (a rant) thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-09-27 14:11 -0400
            Re: Style Police (a rant) Retahiv Oopsiscame <roopsisc@gmail.com> - 2011-10-01 07:31 -0700
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            Re: Style Police (a rant) Retahiv Oopsiscame <roopsisc@gmail.com> - 2011-10-01 07:34 -0700
              Re: Style Police (a rant) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-10-01 15:51 -0400
                Re: Style Police (a rant) Retahiv Oopsiscame <roopsisc@gmail.com> - 2011-10-05 06:18 -0700
              Re: Style Police (a rant) "Cthun" <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-10-01 16:26 -0400
                Re: Style Police (a rant) thoolen <th00len@th0lenbot.thorium> - 2011-10-01 21:25 -0400
                Re: Style Police (a rant) Retahiv Oopsiscame <roopsisc@gmail.com> - 2011-10-05 06:23 -0700
                Re: Style Police (a rant) Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-10-05 10:01 -0400
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                Re: Style Police (a rant) Cthun <cthun_117@qmail.net.au> - 2011-10-07 17:34 -0400
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