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Lew於 2012年4月29日星期日UTC+8下午4時56分50秒寫道：
> Peter Cheung wrote:
> > why people in the forum look like angering something on me?
> 
> There are several reasons, and it's a fair question.
> 
> In the first place, I doubt that anyone is actually angry with you. There is a 
> difference between harshness and anger, although few people pay attention to 
> the difference. You have triggered some harsh reactions, but people really are 
> trying to impart information to help you. The thing you do right is to engage 
> with the conversation, to keep responding to people and trying to understand. 
> As long as you do that no one should actually be angry with you.

I cannot really identify harshness/anger from english text, english is not my first language.

> 
> What people have been telling you is important information. There are high 
> standards to professional programming, and they are rigorous. Early on you 
> showed some resistance to the information people gave you. This is especially 
> important in the area of ethics, which you violated. Besides that, you did not 
> respond to the comments regarding engineering flaws in your code. Your 
> responses to other comments, namely the lack of Javadocs and a build script, 
> were dismissive and constituted little more than, "I'm not doing that." We 
> know you're not doing that, we pointed out that you're not doing that. More 
> importantly we pointed out that you should be doing that, advice that you 
> ignore at your own cost.

There is only one developer to develop peter-swing, yes, its me. The primary goal for peter-swing is to make a new theme for my other project http://code.google.com/p/peter-bochs/ . If it is working, i don't want to spend time on writing comment, i would like to spend time on peter-bochs rather.

I really don't need a build script, because eclipse can build. Eclipse can build a executable jar, it is enough for me. I don't know how hurt is my sentence "I'm not doing that", but in chinese, that sentence is not a offensive sentence.
But the words "Wow, shame on you, Peter", it is very offensive in my point of view.

> 
> Basically you have not shown interest in the wisdom and expertise that the 
> several very smart and knowledgeable people like Patricia Shanahan, Daniel 
> Pitts, markspace and Arne Vajhøj, to name a few, have shared. You don't give 
> reasons or logic for your decisions. You seem unaware and uninterested in 
> respect for copyrights. Instead of taking coding advice, you say, "Let me 
> finish my project," indicating that you are going to follow bad code with even 
> more bad code.

I create components and theme for people use, that is the only wisdom i have in peter-swing project. If you think peter-swing project is bad enough, just leave it.
I really didn't steal somebody code, The class metalbump in my project, actually I don't use it. I have removed it.

> 
> So people aren't so much angry with you as contemptuous of your behavior. Not 
> of you, necessarily - I cannot imagine Ms. Dr. Shanahan showing less than 
> exquisite courtesy and respect to any human being, for example - but certainly 
> of actions that will harm your ability to put together good software.
> 
> It's not good to be emotional or defensive about one's work in this business. 
> The results have to work, and work in accordance with expectations. That is 
> what it is beyond all wishing or superstition or resistance to brutally honest 
> advice. Take the advice - respect for your behavior is far less important than 
> success in software development. Following the advice of those wiser in this 
> arena will lead to both.
> 
> -- 
> Lew
> Honi soit qui mal y pense.
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg

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JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 15:29 -0700
  Re: JOutlookBar Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 16:19 -0700
    Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 20:17 -0700
      Re: JOutlookBar Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-04-27 10:11 -0700
        Re: JOutlookBar markspace <-@.> - 2012-04-27 12:33 -0700
          Re: JOutlookBar Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-27 13:51 -0700
            Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-28 03:10 -0700
              Re: JOutlookBar Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-28 18:03 -0400
          Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-28 03:06 -0700
            Re: JOutlookBar Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-04-28 15:06 -0700
              Re: JOutlookBar Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-28 21:08 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 00:13 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 00:31 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-29 01:56 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 07:37 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-04-29 07:51 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-29 12:01 -0700
                Re: JOutlookBar Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-05 19:53 -0400

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