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| From | Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.java.programmer |
| Subject | Re: JOutlookBar |
| Date | 2012-04-29 01:56 -0700 |
| Organization | albasani.net |
| Message-ID | <jnivoa$r7m$1@news.albasani.net> (permalink) |
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Peter Cheung wrote: > why people in the forum look like angering something on me? There are several reasons, and it's a fair question. In the first place, I doubt that anyone is actually angry with you. There is a difference between harshness and anger, although few people pay attention to the difference. You have triggered some harsh reactions, but people really are trying to impart information to help you. The thing you do right is to engage with the conversation, to keep responding to people and trying to understand. As long as you do that no one should actually be angry with you. What people have been telling you is important information. There are high standards to professional programming, and they are rigorous. Early on you showed some resistance to the information people gave you. This is especially important in the area of ethics, which you violated. Besides that, you did not respond to the comments regarding engineering flaws in your code. Your responses to other comments, namely the lack of Javadocs and a build script, were dismissive and constituted little more than, "I'm not doing that." We know you're not doing that, we pointed out that you're not doing that. More importantly we pointed out that you should be doing that, advice that you ignore at your own cost. Basically you have not shown interest in the wisdom and expertise that the several very smart and knowledgeable people like Patricia Shanahan, Daniel Pitts, markspace and Arne Vajhøj, to name a few, have shared. You don't give reasons or logic for your decisions. You seem unaware and uninterested in respect for copyrights. Instead of taking coding advice, you say, "Let me finish my project," indicating that you are going to follow bad code with even more bad code. So people aren't so much angry with you as contemptuous of your behavior. Not of you, necessarily - I cannot imagine Ms. Dr. Shanahan showing less than exquisite courtesy and respect to any human being, for example - but certainly of actions that will harm your ability to put together good software. It's not good to be emotional or defensive about one's work in this business. The results have to work, and work in accordance with expectations. That is what it is beyond all wishing or superstition or resistance to brutally honest advice. Take the advice - respect for your behavior is far less important than success in software development. Following the advice of those wiser in this arena will lead to both. -- Lew Honi soit qui mal y pense. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg
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JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 15:29 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 16:19 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-26 20:17 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-04-27 10:11 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar markspace <-@.> - 2012-04-27 12:33 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-27 13:51 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-28 03:10 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-04-28 18:03 -0400
Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-28 03:06 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-04-28 15:06 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-28 21:08 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 00:13 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 00:31 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-29 01:56 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Peter Cheung <cmk128@gmail.com> - 2012-04-29 07:37 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-04-29 07:51 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-04-29 12:01 -0700
Re: JOutlookBar Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-05 19:53 -0400
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