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Re: Top 3 implementations?

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From Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl>
Subject Re: Top 3 implementations?
Date 2012-05-20 21:41 +0000
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In article <565dd8be-314d-4696-88f0-ea91f43a53cf@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Hugh Aguilar  <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>The closest anybody comes to the good-old-days of selling software as
>a product, is in the micro-controller field. Actually though, it is
>the circuit-board that is the product, not the software. The software
>is valued according to how much it costs (in wages) to produce it, but
>this has little or no relation to how many boards it will get burned
>into. The programming world is remarkably similar to what Karl Marx
>described, in which every product is valued according to how many
>hours went into making it, rather than what the product does.
>
>Communism may have failed as an economic system for the material
>world, but it has a rock-solid hold on the programming world.

A strange conclusion. It is too early to say whether capitalism isn't
failing even worse. The last time we had a recession like this (1929)
Russia was doing better than the west economically.

Admitting that Marx had some economic insight applicable to software
by saying that "communism has a rock solid hold on the programming
world" is just weird.

You can't make money by making a product. You must sell Rolexes,
50 euro worth of technology, and 950 euro hot air, hype and "IP".

Groetjes Albert

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Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
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Top 3 implementations? Tarkin <tarkin000@gmail.com> - 2012-04-27 08:46 -0700
  Re: Top 3 implementations? Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-27 11:02 -0700
    Re: Top 3 implementations? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 11:10 -0700
  Re: Top 3 implementations? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-03 02:15 -0700
  Re: Top 3 implementations? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-03 02:15 -0700
    Re: Top 3 implementations? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-05-03 18:45 +0200
      Re: Top 3 implementations? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-05-03 08:01 -1000
        Re: Top 3 implementations? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 11:15 -0700
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                Re: Top 3 implementations? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201205.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-05-06 04:09 +0200
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            Re: Top 3 implementations? hwfwguy@gmail.com - 2012-05-07 10:22 -0700
            Re: Top 3 implementations? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-08 13:41 -0700
              Re: Top 3 implementations? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-05-08 11:07 -1000
                Re: Top 3 implementations? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-08 14:26 -0700
                Re: Top 3 implementations? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-05-08 12:07 -1000
                Re: Top 3 implementations? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-05-09 02:45 -0500
                Re: Top 3 implementations? "Harry Vaderchi" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2012-05-09 09:15 +0100
          Re: Top 3 implementations? Tarkin <tarkin000@gmail.com> - 2012-05-07 08:20 -0700
        Re: Top 3 implementations? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-10 04:50 -0700
          Re: Top 3 implementations? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-05-15 10:45 +0000
            Re: Top 3 implementations? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-15 23:58 -0700
              Re: Top 3 implementations? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-19 20:36 -0700
                Re: Top 3 implementations? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-05-20 21:41 +0000
                Re: Top 3 implementations? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-05-21 00:55 +0200
                Re: Top 3 implementations? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-20 22:26 -0700
                Re: Top 3 implementations? hwfwguy@gmail.com - 2012-05-22 10:20 -0700
      Re: Top 3 implementations? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-05-03 11:08 -0700

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