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Re: ALSO - anything better?

From "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: ALSO - anything better?
Date 2012-08-16 14:08 +1000
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Anton Ertl wrote:
> "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> writes:
> > ...
> >Whether one searches by stacking vocabs, or explicitly executing
> >them as required, the result should be the same.  No?
>
> No.  See below.
> ...

Apparently it sufficed LMI.

After further research I found LMI has the primitive 'find' - which takes
an arbitrary number of wids and searches them.  FIND however uses
just context current forth.

> >Stacking vocabs has the same issue as too many items on the
> >data stack - it's difficult to keep track.
>
> And yet we use a stack, and not two registers plus a constant (which
> would be the equivalent of "context current forth").

I don't like arbitrarily long stacks with strange behaviours whose
contents I barely remember after several pages of code and ALSO
PREVIOUS machinations.

LMI saw ONLY ALSO as "brain damaged" and made it plain they
would not implement ANS if forced upon them.  Those interested
can read statements by the key players.  Google the document
"bestof04.91"

Since then I note vendors and others have have added  +ORDER
-ORDER  to the list.  This monster just keeps growing new heads.

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16.6.2.0715 ALSO Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-31 05:33 -0700
  Re: 16.6.2.0715 ALSO anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-07-31 14:43 +0000
    Re: 16.6.2.0715 ALSO Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-31 08:08 -0700
      Re: 16.6.2.0715 ALSO "David N. Williams" <williams@umich.edu> - 2012-07-31 11:35 -0400
  Re: 16.6.2.0715 ALSO Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-07-31 11:03 -0500
  ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-08 16:28 +1000
    Re: ALSO - anything better? Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-08 01:22 -0700
      Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-08 10:33 +0000
      Re: ALSO - anything better? Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-08 03:52 -0700
        Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-11 22:13 +1000
          Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-11 12:15 +0000
            Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-13 21:22 +1000
              Re: ALSO - anything better? Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-13 04:44 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-14 18:46 +1000
              Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-13 10:03 -0500
          Re: ALSO - anything better? Spam@ControlQ.com - 2012-08-11 11:31 -0400
            Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-11 16:01 +0000
              Re: ALSO - anything better? Spam@ControlQ.com - 2012-08-12 16:02 -0400
            Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-11 11:37 -0500
          Re: ALSO - anything better? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-08-11 08:04 -1000
            Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-12 13:26 +1000
              Re: ALSO - anything better? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-08-11 21:55 -1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-14 17:18 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-08-13 21:53 -1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-14 19:25 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-14 19:40 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-15 12:57 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-15 10:09 -0500
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-15 15:12 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-15 10:21 -0500
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-15 16:26 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-15 12:08 -0500
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-15 17:38 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-15 13:10 -0500
                Re: ALSO - anything better? mhx@iae.nl - 2012-08-15 13:49 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-16 12:34 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-08-16 20:13 +0200
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-17 14:07 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-16 14:08 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-16 02:30 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-16 11:51 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-18 03:09 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-17 17:13 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-19 14:13 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-19 09:57 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2012-08-16 10:28 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-16 12:38 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-08-16 11:07 -0500
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-17 22:12 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-16 12:45 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2012-08-18 03:14 +1000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-08-17 17:31 +0000
                Re: ALSO - anything better? Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-08-17 17:14 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-08-18 10:16 -0700
                Re: ALSO - anything better? "David N. Williams" <williams@umich.edu> - 2012-08-18 15:41 -0400
              Re: ALSO - anything better? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-08-15 12:14 -0700

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