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Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"

From John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"
Date 2025-05-28 07:56 -0700
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On Wed, 28 May 2025 04:02:19 -0000 (UTC)
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote:

> Microcontrollers today have more resources than a PDP-11/70 from
> 1975.  As much as the appetite of the hardware has increased, the
> appetite for features from customers has increased even further.

But then, the fewer resources consumed by the underlying framework, the
more are free for the actual application that meets those customer
needs. Of course there's a balance to be struck, but a spendthrift
attitude towards resources will, sooner or later, lead to a crunch that
might've been avoided otherwise.

(Things are also gonna get *real* interesting when Moore's Law finally
hits the wall with those pesky laws of physics that say things like "you
can't fit an infinite amount of stuff in a finite space without
creating a black hole" and "but also distance imposes hard limits on
signal propagation times" and "and also basic thermodynamics means work
generates waste heat, which has hard limits on dissipation.")

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"A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> - 2025-05-27 22:33 +1000
  Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2025-05-27 18:45 +0000
    Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2025-05-27 20:28 +0000
  Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:15 +1000
    Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2025-05-28 04:02 +0000
      Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 07:56 -0700
      Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 13:57 +1000
        Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-05-29 06:47 +0000
          Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-05-29 00:22 -0700
            Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-05-29 08:24 +0000
              Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-05-29 13:02 +0200
              Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-05-31 00:04 -0700
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-05-31 10:15 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-05-31 13:58 +0200
            Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-03 11:31 +0000
              Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-03 04:39 -0700
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-06 12:00 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-06 17:02 -0700
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-08 19:41 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-08 20:41 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-06-08 22:26 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-08 22:58 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-06-09 06:27 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-06-09 12:52 +0200
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-06-09 15:52 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 11:31 +1000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:03 -0700
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:09 -0700
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                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 08:53 -0700
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Doc O'Leary ,   <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> - 2025-08-11 21:51 +0000
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 14:57 -0700
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                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 12:14 -0700
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-13 12:48 -0700
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                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Doc O'Leary ,   <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> - 2025-08-15 15:14 +0000
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 09:03 -0700
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Doc O'Leary ,   <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> - 2025-08-16 23:36 +0000
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-17 07:09 +0000
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 10:45 -0700
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-18 23:25 +0000
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-19 08:14 -0700
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Doc O'Leary ,   <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> - 2025-08-19 21:58 +0000
                Re: non-mainstream web (browsers) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-20 00:39 +0000
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                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-08 19:41 +0000
              Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-03 12:07 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-06 12:00 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-06 13:21 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 07:54 -0700
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-07 12:47 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anthk <anthk@openbsd.home> - 2025-06-07 12:47 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 08:20 -0700
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" sjack@dontemail.me (sjack) - 2025-06-06 14:37 +0000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 00:55 +1000
                Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) - 2025-06-06 18:13 +0000
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            Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-05-29 01:12 -0700
          Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 20:09 +1000
          Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" sjack@dontemail.me (sjack) - 2025-05-29 13:50 +0000
            Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:51 +1000
    Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" Anthk NM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2025-12-12 10:43 +0000
      Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" minforth <minforth@gmx.net> - 2025-12-12 15:05 +0100
        Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 11:59 +0000
          Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-22 14:29 +0000
        Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-01-06 22:39 +0000
  Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-06-04 17:48 +0100

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