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Re: non-mainstream web (browsers)

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth, comp.infosystems.www.misc
Subject Re: non-mainstream web (browsers)
Date 2025-08-13 12:48 -0700
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John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:
> No, I think I'll stick with active scorn and spite towards web
> designers who can't be bothered to do their job properly. The attitude
> that it should be considered acceptable for web designers to dictate
> people's choice of browser was contemptible in the '90s-'00s and it's
> contemptible now.

There's a web standard (HTML5) and it includes all those features that
you (and I) dislike.  We could agree that it's a BAD standard.  Some
people feel the same about ANS Forth.  But it's there, and the big
browsers implement it, and web developers for the most part follow it.

I write C++ code sometimes.  C++11 introduced a lot of new features that
weren't in earlier versions.  They were refined further in C++14 and
later.  Am I irresponsible or not doing my job if I use those features,
instead of writing C++98 code in 2025?

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