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Re: 64 bit Windows install difficulty

From	ralph <nt_consulting64@yahoo.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
Subject	Re: 64 bit Windows install difficulty
Date	2012-03-20 08:32 -0500
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:09:34 -0000, "Mike Williams"
<Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote:

>"ralph" <nt_consulting64@yahoo.net> wrote in message 
>news:scmfm7teeusc2ec7f72e1krdo8j87qa8n4@4ax.com...
>
>> The search rules for the Windows Launcher to find a
>> dependent shared DLL (Win32 DLL, Regular DLL, ...)
>> for a given executable are as follows:
>> [rules snipped]
>> It worked on Mike's wife's computer because of Rule 2 or 3.
>
>Yep. I was in fact already aware of the search rules myself, but I 
>specifically placed msvbvm50.dll in the same folder as the VB5 program in 
>order to get as close as possible to what the OP said he was doing in his 
>very first post.
>

Meant that as a reply to the OP, not you. (I think we can safely trust
you know the search rules by now. <g>)

 I was trying to be as boringly complete as possible. Perhaps I should
have been even more "complete".

OP:

First off, while the MSVBVM50.DLL is important, in this context it is
just another shared DLL. There is nothing particularly mysterious
associated with it being 'missing'.

The main reason why an executable will report a dependent DLL as
"missing" is because the DLL is not physically in one of the 'search'
folders. This is easy to troubleshoot - open up Explorer and look.

Another might be because while the named DLL can be found other DLL's
it is dependent on are 'missing'. Again easy to troubleshoot - run a
dependency checker then open Explorer and look for them. (It is
unlikely this is a problem in this case, but ?)

Another reason is because while the file might be physically/virtually
located in one of those folders, due to its current privileges the
application can't 'see' it when invoking the search rules. This can be
more difficult to troubleshoot as the multiple reasons are usually
less intuitive and obscure. Examples might be:

1) The executable might be located in one folder and the DLL located
in another. The location of the DLL might be in the PATH Environmental
Variable, but due to current user privileges the user is unable to
'see' that folder.

2) Both an executable and its shared DLL (eg, App1.exe, DLL1.dll) are
in the same folder (eg, c:\MyStuff) and that folder is not included in
the PATH variable.
A process with its current directory in say 'C:\Working' launches an
executable in that folder by providing the fullpathname (eg,
C:\MyStuff\App1.exe). 
DLL1.dll will be reported as 'missing' since the search rules will
fail.

There are other likely scenarios, but this should give one a good idea
of where to start looking. The search rules are fundamental to
resoving the issue of 'missing' shared DLLs.

-ralph

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