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Re: Very good rant about our loving linux

From RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.mint
Subject Re: Very good rant about our loving linux
Date 2026-03-06 11:07 +0000
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On 2026-03-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 3/5/2026 11:06 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
>> Axel wrote:
>>> Why do you use XFCE in preference to Cinnamon?
>> 
>> I use Cinnamon as my everyday driver, but I also like for my 'dabbling' distro/s to be lighter weight, all the way down to WMs instead of DEs.
>> 
>> XFCE is on the lighter side; such as Gnome is certainly a heavyweight. Historically KDE has been 'all over the map' sometimes as low as XFCE and sometimes as high as they come.
>> 
>> I'm happy that T Pearson has continued to keep Trinity DE fork of old KDE alive along w/ his fork of old Qt for a nice lightweight DE.
>> 
>
> And we only emphasize this notion of "light weight" as
> a response to the capabilities of the computer.
>
> With Grahams 4400+ for example, a dual core Athlon64 at 2.2GHz or so,
> if the graphics acceleration worked, we might not have
> to pamper the thing.
>
> Where we get in trouble, is if the graphics driver reverts
> to little better than a frame buffer (XY array of pixels,
> no acceleration). The processor is then tasked with doing
> all the graphics operations itself. This leaves little horsepower
> for running Firefox internals.
>
> Whereas, when your processor has a lot of cores, then it is OK
> for some cores to do the graphics. My daily driver has 8 cores,
> so it's not all that powerful, but if the worst behavior
> I've seen is 4 cores railed while doing graphics, I have 4 cores
> left for running Firefox :-) That's where the extra cores come
> in handy. Relatively speaking, it does not matter whether
> I run XFCE or I run Cinnamon then.
>
> My laptop with the one core, where the one core is equal
> to half of Grahams processor, the situation for it is
> going to require a more economical distro (Puppy maybe
> or the TinyCore I tested).
>
>    Paul

I've got Linux Mint Cinnamon 22.1 running on a Dell Latitude 3180, which was 
basically a "schoolroom laptop." It has a dual core Intel Celeron N3350 CPU, 
8 GBs of RAM, Intel 500 GPU (HD Graphics, it says) and 128 GBs. I installed 
a new battery and get a maximum of about 14 hours of battery life. It works 
well on the Internet, can stream moves and YouTube and its rugged and cheap 
enough that you don't mind carrying it around with you. I'm impressed with 
it. And no fan. It hardly ever runs over 38°C. I like low heat and low power 
without a fan.

At any rate, I think Xfce vs Cinnamon (because is lighter) isn't necessarily 
that strong of an argument. Cinnamon seems light enough (maybe it works 
better if you have 8 GBs of RAM).

-- 
Linux Mint Cinnamon 21.3

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