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Re: Very good rant about our loving linux

From RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.mint
Subject Re: Very good rant about our loving linux
Date 2026-03-09 06:33 +0000
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On 2026-03-08, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 3/8/2026 6:24 AM, RonB wrote:
>> On 2026-03-07, Handsome Jack <jack@handsome.com> wrote:
>>> On 6 Mar 2026 20:01:52 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 6 Mar 2026 10:48:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've got Xfce, Mate and Cinnamon installed on this computer. But I
>>>>> almost always use Cinnamon (unless I'm testing something). It's easy to
>>>>> install Cinnamon and then choose which you want to use at login. One
>>>>> command...
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt install mint-meta-cinnamon
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt install i3
>>>>
>>>> I get 5 choices at login. Cinnamon (Default), Cinnamon (Software
>>>> Rendering), Cinnamon on Wayland (Experimental), i3, and i3 ( with debug
>>>> log).
>>>
>>> On one of the discussion group web pages I read apropos this topic, 
>>> somebody posted something like "having multiple alternative desktop 
>>> environments on one machine is a recipe for crashes that are very 
>>> difficult to diagnose ... only half-witted newbies do it." 
>>>
>>> Is there any truth in that or is just the sort of thing that snotty Linux 
>>> nerds sneer to each other? I don't mind trying different DEs but I can't 
>>> afford to have serious bugs on my work computer, not any more than 
>>> necessary anyway.
>> 
>> I've had all three standard Linux Mint desktops on this machine since Linux 
>> Mint 19. I've done two major upgrades since then and it retained working 
>> versions of all three desktops without any lock up issues. So, at least on 
>> Linux Mint (on on three computers — the SSD has been moved to three 
>> different computers), it doesn't seem to be an issue. I'll run Mintupgrade 
>> again when I (eventually) move to Linux Mint 22 on this machine (that's 
>> another thing they tell "not to do").
>> 
>> The SSD is currently in a Lenovo ThinkCentre M910q Tiny (7"x7"x1.5")desktop 
>> with an i7-7700T CPU and 16 GBs of RAM. Previously it was in a Dell Optiplex 
>> 3020 Mini, then an Optiplex 9020 Mini, (both with 16 GBs of RAM and i5-4590T 
>> CPUs) and, for about four months when I was in Arkansas, in my Latitude 
>> E7450 laptop with an i5-5300U Dual Core CPU (no issues on the laptop 
>> either).
>> 
>> Linux Mint does a good job of keeping their three desktops as similar as 
>> possible. So maybe the fact I use Linux Mint is why it works to have more 
>> than one desktop installed.
>> 
>
> The idea is, generally, to curate what you put in the tree, so it
> can all be installed at the same time.
>
> The limit on DEs, is also a practical matter, of how many you have
> staff to maintain the stuff. (For a downstream DE, you still have
> to test stuff, and if you've been patching and changing things
> that counts as effort too.)
>
> DE which have different subsystem requirements, may be a lot harder
> to fit. (You have to load a different set of things, perhaps
> including even the login screen thing. Maybe it requires
> a dpkg-reconfigure.)
>
> This is taxing the skills of your tree-herder.
>
> That, and making a Driver Manager work (the package count involved!).
>
>    Paul

I don't know about any of this. I just know that installing Cinnamon and 
Xfce (this computer started with the Mate desktop) didn't cause any issues. 
And I think the Cinnamon desktop was about 200 MBs of storage space and the 
Xfce install used less. I've got some redundancy, but that doesn't bother me.

It was just two simple commands to add Xfce and Cinnamon...

sudo apt install mint-meta-xfce

sudo apt install mint-meta-cinnamon

Resulted in full installs of all three desktops.

-- 
Linux Mint Cinnamon 21.3

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